For the love of god, remove the Trial of the Sekhemas and Trial of Chaos from ascenadncy

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D623932883#0055 написал:
NGL, didn't read your reply. Saw a picture of trade league stuff


You mean the default game mode around which all content is designed and balanced and always will be? That league?

Like guy, play SSF if that's your thing. Call the core game "trade league" if it makes you happy (personally I think it's a little cringe and smells of insecurity). But surely you must know the developers aren't going to make fundamental design changes based on SSF.
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Kerchunk#7797 написал:
Call the core game "trade league" if it makes you happy (personally I think it's a little cringe and smells of insecurity).


It is literally the league in which trading is allowed. I have no idea how saying that manages to be cringe, but okay.
I would give anything to just not have the stupid honor mechanic and just be able to play the damn trial. If spending nearly an hour to get to the fourth boss only to lose due to unfortunate honor recovery RNG is working as intended, then the design is bad and you should design something better. This isn't hard to understand.

I'm not doing the chaos trial three times for 2 points. Get real.
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Cobalus#3165 написал:
Tying vital improvements to a character build behind rng gameplay that is also behind an rng drop is a terrible and bone-headed decision.

I can't stand the Sekhema trial, and i can't get an ultimatum to drop. For the love of god, my character is on 4 ascendancy points at level 82.

Until you figure out what to do with it, just give the ascendancy points at 20/40/60/80 level rather than tying them to the most hated mechanics of the previous game.

The Sekhema trial has almost nothing to do with POE, your game is not a good roguelike with clear telegraphs and smooth movement, just make me play a game of chess for the points or something.


Tbh i like Sekhema. Im also pretty experienced at it and can do it basically when i drop every barya. without issue.

Just take the relics with Honour resistance and you should be fine. My first run through Sekhema took ages and many tries when i did it back in 0.1 but i did it after 15 tries or so. Since then i learned a lot.

I hate Chaos trial for the simple reason that its boring af. Who doesn tlike to walk a kilometer between each room and walking at a snails pace to follow that fucking satue or wwait until monsters spawn at the obelisk. Or wait for monsters in the ritual.
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D623932883#0055 написал:
It is literally the league in which trading is allowed. I have no idea how saying that manages to be cringe, but okay.


Come on dude. You know exactly what you're doing when you call it "Trade League" and so does everyone else. There's a reason the only people either of us have ever seen use that term are SSF players flexing on forums or social media. You guys made it up because it implies that you're somehow superior for playing the game without relying on trade. There's no other reason to use the term because "SSF" already exists and perfectly differentiates the alternative mode of play you have chosen from the default core experience which includes trade.
Последняя редакция: Kerchunk#7797. Время: 17 сент. 2025 г., 00:42:29
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Kerchunk#7797 написал:
Come on dude. You know exactly what you're doing when you call it "Trade League" and so does everyone else. There's a reason the only people either of us have ever seen use that term are SSF players flexing on forums or social media. You guys made it up because it implies that you're somehow superior for playing the game without relying on trade. There's no other reason to use the term because "SSF" already exists and perfectly differentiates the alternative mode of play you have chosen from the default core experience which includes trade.


For someone that likes to imply others are insecure about the way others play, you sure are doing a lot of projecting here.

When I, and I'm assuming others, call it "trade league", it simply means "the league in which you may trade". It means nothing else. Would you rather I had typed "Non-SSF League"? That seems worse.

You're acting like I called it "Cheat Mode" or something. <- See NOW I'm doing it.
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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 написал:
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Asmosis#7365 написал:
I like the trials, they're good mechanically and give you something different to do which is needed. I like balancing and crafting the relics as another layer of gear.

The only part that potentially needs balancing is the rewards for doing them.

I did them both recently for the 3rd/4th set of points because i was bored, those points will sit unused until the end of the league as the ascendancies really dont do anything much for minion builds.


Lol What....

Even Warrior Titan ascendency can effect minion builds with hulking form and extra life (this depends on items you wear), tactician gives you 25% of your weapon damge to your minions as base damage, lich gives unholy might, infernalist gives more spirit and literally an entire minion in itself, chronomancer now gives you a curse which can be scaled to basically give you 30% or higher MORE damage, time freeze ect.

The ascendencies are such a huge power buff for most builds if used correctly.


Those are all worse than taking witch and just not taking an ascendancy at all. For the witch ones, you have one node thats good, one thats meh and then your just taking things you would have taken on the regular passive tree.

If you're not familiar with POE's passive tree, i'd recommend taking a look at it sometime. The non-witch ones might look good on paper, but the travel cost nullifies any benefit to taking them. Thats what you get from theory crafting and not actually playing the game.


Except the best minion build I have made "Theory Crafting" is probably Tactician, Oh and it was not jsut a theory, I build it, it works, Travel nodes included. The power you get from the one ascendency node is so crazy insane that it is worth doing.

The build uses giants blood and a 2h Mace + Scepter and currently runs 2x Warriors, 1x Brute, 1x Reaver, 1x Storm Mage 1x Cleric and 25+ Skeletal Snipers. I have yet to test if there are any decent spectres for clearing but DPS with the snipers out for bossing is around 1.2m.

Having 100% uptime on banner is more dps alone than that "One Witch Node"

Warrior is actually very powerful for minions. With all the small minion damage nodes being buffed by 50% (Which is the ONLY source of minion damage outside of select gear options) and the extra HP gained, travel with warrior also is not that big a deal there are quite a few nodes that are useful and you can still pick up every usefull minion node. The sentinal nodes being literally along the path and probably the most powerful minion cluster on the tree also makes it a fantastic option.

Seriously if you cannot fathom this then you lack creativity perhaps you need to spend more time theorycrafting than actually playing the game.

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