Iron Reflexes change

I don't know why everyone is only talking about ES changes.

I have a bad feeling 3 of my builds just went to crap with Iron Reflexes.

depends if your builds relied on a good amount of dex for the converted evasion due to having little or no evasion on your gear. the only build that do that are ci builds, since they dont have much dex and might not have evasion on gear.

A few of my builds had a good mix of str and dex. Dex into the 250-350 range. The armor bonus was the highlight of the build! I much prefer armor on melee then being able to evade by dropping IR :(

They really didn't explain their thoughts behind this change. It might not be a complete loss. I am still downloading the patch (taking forever!), but I know I don't have 70% dmg reduction anymore :P

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Fleshbits написал:

A few of my builds had a good mix of str and dex. Dex into the 250-350 range. The armor bonus was the highlight of the build! I much prefer armor on melee then being able to evade by dropping IR :(

They really didn't explain their thoughts behind this change. It might not be a complete loss. I am still downloading the patch (taking forever!), but I know I don't have 70% dmg reduction anymore :P

Prepare for the worst man my dex/stg melley character is totaly ruined ATM im trying to figure out how to save it ATM and it dose not look good.


IV been hit by nurfs before but this 1 is just a strait kick right in the balls man, yup right in the wedding tackle.

Pukes from the pain

Just in 1 month GGG manage to ruin my EKer with 1.2k life nerf, 1k damage and now 3k armour. :o) Thanks a lot, keep up with the good work.

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

You're giving up your dexterity bonus (which by another definition is 'deftness') when you take Iron Reflexes because, by the keystone's description, you're no longer dodging blows. You're just sitting there taking them.

There is nothing dextrous about Iron Reflexes.

This isn't a 'nerf' to melee

"Melee is forced to take IR" -- really? By whom?

This isnt a nerf.

If it was a nerf it still wouldn't be game breaking.
If you rely on 1 node that much you should go play D3.

Lost about 25% of my armour.

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ShaeG написал:

This isnt a nerf.

If it was a nerf it still wouldn't be game breaking.
If you rely on 1 node that much you should go play D3.

Your definition of nerf is... interesting.

My big problem with the change is that its thematically silly. This is now a node in the heart of dex land that is best taken when you have very little dex (as in however much you have to get in order to get IR). I'd much rather them to have added something along the lines of "60% reduced evasion conversion" instead.

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enshin написал:

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

You're giving up your dexterity bonus (which by another definition is 'deftness') when you take Iron Reflexes because, by the keystone's description, you're no longer dodging blows. You're just sitting there taking them.

There is nothing dextrous about Iron Reflexes.

There's nothing evasive about Iron Reflexes at all. By that argument, none of the evasion should be converted.

Unless there's something special about the evasion you get as a result of dexterity compared with the evasion you get from other sources, the above argument doesn't hold. (As I understand it, both of them are just your ability to evade stuff. It's not like your normal evasion is supposed to be really clunky, 'undextrous' evasion or anything.)

Perhaps they nerfed it for a balance reason, but to suggest it makes sense because of CharanJaydemyr's argument is a bit strange.