PoE reddit hits a new low

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DirkAustin написал:
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miljan написал:
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Lynerus написал:
So are we allowed to use this now? i don't see why not since GGG allows macros

GGG?


Use it, just dont tell anyone, as a lot of people did in the past with no problems xD.


I hope both of you get banned for even talking like this...


And everyone in HC using auto log out scripts is any better then this how again? of right its the same GG
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Lynerus написал:

And everyone in HC using auto log out scripts is any better then this how again? of right its the same GG


Hope they get banned too.
Let's be honest....

Depending on how many people use 3rd party programs AND pay for micro-transactions we're gonna see one of two things:

1:GGG will auto-ban the scrubs because the majority of users using 3party software don't buy anything.


*or*

2:Too many of the users actually buy things in the game and the economic hit to the company for banning that many paying customers is more revenue than they're willing to cut themselves off from.



From what I understand, because GGG has consistently ignored and refused to make particle effects tolerable for modest systems, there's a real good chance they're discovering the result of ignoring the 'middle class'... this has either turned people away and their money to other games, or it has drawn them to whatever 3rd party package allows their computer to run the game.



In Diablo 2 when a ban wave would hit for a hack, we'd loose 20-30% of the community in the first day... although that was replaced with new CD keys.



I guess now we find out if that 20-30% (estimation) are paying customers or not.

The only way is to ban them all.
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Windy_Soliloquy написал:


From what I understand, because GGG has consistently ignored and refused to make particle effects tolerable for modest systems, there's a real good chance they're discovering the result of ignoring the 'middle class'... this has either turned people away and their money to other games, or it has drawn them to whatever 3rd party package allows their computer to run the game.



i am thankful for jaerin tossing that thread into reddit, since it seemes chris now has opened his own thread where he atleast started talking about QoL options.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2sbqmb/qol_particle_effects_etc_discussion_thread/


i am glad that chris was able to sift through all the insults of these fanatic anticheaters that disregarded the good benefits of this tool and see that there are not few of us that were tempted in using this just because it offered a great improvement on gameplay.

Последняя редакция: Esto#2689. Время: 13 янв. 2015 г., 21:40:16
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Esto написал:
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Windy_Soliloquy написал:


From what I understand, because GGG has consistently ignored and refused to make particle effects tolerable for modest systems, there's a real good chance they're discovering the result of ignoring the 'middle class'... this has either turned people away and their money to other games, or it has drawn them to whatever 3rd party package allows their computer to run the game.



i am thankful for jaerin tossing that thread into reddit, since it seemes chris now has opened his own thread where he atleast started talking about QoL options.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2sbqmb/qol_particle_effects_etc_discussion_thread/


i am glad that chris was able to sift through all the insults of these fanatic anticheaters that disregarded the good benefits of this tool and see that there are not few of us that were tempted in using this just because it offered a great improvement on gameplay.



Fanatic anticheaters that ignore the good benefits?

How about people that see cheating as awful regardless of the "benefits"
I'm so suuuuuure that the qol features are the only part of the tool people use. Please.
Yeah well it does seem like Chris is being forced to face some issues finally, which would lead me to believe he's discovered that quite a few more players than he could have imagined are using the toolkit or whatever it's called.

I dunno.... I don't know how he could have missed that the game is flat out unplayable in groups for a huge population of people....

I guess the 60 million dollars they've already made off the game stopped him from seeing that, and it probably also stopped him from realizing there was a LOT more money to be made if they hadn't pushed soooo many players away with the fact that the game becomes unplayable at higher levels for many users.

If people don't want spell effects on, if they don't want rain dropping them down to 4fps... then why the fux aren't these options in the game to be turned off like every other single successful game that's targeted to a broad spectrum of users....

IF your customer base wants the standard options that any truly successful MMO offers their users... then give them the options! You only shoot yourself in the foot by pretending to address the issue when all that's being done is sending money away from your doorstep.


It's like at what point do you not realize that when players can't even see what they're fighting anymore because of so many spell effects in a party that there needs to be the option to tone it down?
They're fun to have in smaller groups of 2 or 3 players but they've been ignoring the fact that it's impossible to mentally process all that's going on in larger groups and that's where the item bonus forces people to play.


It's been brought up time and again and it's been fiddled with but headon it's been completely ignored... sure they play with an effect here or there, but they don't address the core issue or allow us to do it within the terms of the game... and if some two bit 3rd party programer can fix the problem in just a few hours with a partial disable then what the fux does that say about the devs of this game? It flat out screams at us that they are refusing to address the needs of their playing community for whatever reason or excuse they want to tag along to it. It is that very mentality that created such the huge issue with the tools offered on the net... if they didn't make such a great game so completely unplayable for so many people once they got to higher levels it wouldn't have been such an issue or so widespread of a used set of tools.

Users don't get to pick what's in their toolkit...
Personally the maphacking idea defeats the fun of these types of games to me...
There's nothing to 'explore'... but apparently this is included by default in the toolkit or whatever it is that people need just to run the game at higher levels...



All that being said, this is apparently the first game they've put out right?

At some point they have to realize that there are some standards that are standards for games because they work well for all, and they have to stop avoiding those standards and pretending that they aren't a priority.
Otherwise people will continue to alter their programing in ways that provide that sustainable standard of gameplay... that's the nature of humanity and the current state of the internet.

We saw this battle take place in diablo 2 and blizzard had a lot more money and resources to throw at the 'hacking' community and they still failed at defeating them...

GGG has to realize that if a bigger beast can't out the hackers then they need to at least stop giving the hackers such huge reason to be altering their code in the first place.



Последняя редакция: Windy_Soliloquy#6854. Время: 13 янв. 2015 г., 22:35:14
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taylorfest написал:
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Esto написал:
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Windy_Soliloquy написал:


From what I understand, because GGG has consistently ignored and refused to make particle effects tolerable for modest systems, there's a real good chance they're discovering the result of ignoring the 'middle class'... this has either turned people away and their money to other games, or it has drawn them to whatever 3rd party package allows their computer to run the game.



i am thankful for jaerin tossing that thread into reddit, since it seemes chris now has opened his own thread where he atleast started talking about QoL options.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2sbqmb/qol_particle_effects_etc_discussion_thread/


i am glad that chris was able to sift through all the insults of these fanatic anticheaters that disregarded the good benefits of this tool and see that there are not few of us that were tempted in using this just because it offered a great improvement on gameplay.



Fanatic anticheaters that ignore the good benefits?

How about people that see cheating as awful regardless of the "benefits"
I'm so suuuuuure that the qol features are the only part of the tool people use. Please.


I'll admit being tempted to try this particle effect feature it offers. Not having stupid deaths to things I'm not able to react to sounds very nice indeed. As for the other stuff like maphacks and such, I'm not interested in making the game any easier. I can see the appeal for just quality of life, not sure why you cannot.

Sure there are people exploiting any advantage they can get, but by lumping the two groups together nothing useful will get done.
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tostie написал:
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taylorfest написал:

Fanatic anticheaters that ignore the good benefits?

How about people that see cheating as awful regardless of the "benefits"
I'm so suuuuuure that the qol features are the only part of the tool people use. Please.


I'll admit being tempted to try this particle effect feature it offers. Not having stupid deaths to things I'm not able to react to sounds very nice indeed. As for the other stuff like maphacks and such, I'm not interested in making the game any easier. I can see the appeal for just quality of life, not sure why you cannot.

Sure there are people exploiting any advantage they can get, but by lumping the two groups together nothing useful will get done.


yeah the guy didn't understand the comments he was quoting, obviously.

most people who turn the particle effects off just want to play the game, they don't care for the maphack or whatever else comes with it.
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CharanJaydemyr написал:
60 million?!?!?! This game?!

Don't see any other Rulers around here, do you?

Lol.


yea they had totaled 60 mil as of 4th quarter last year

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