RIP mapping

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morbo написал:

It's ded..., DED I SAY!!

This game is so much more relaxing and fun, when you don't build around high end markets, flip-flopping and exalts-per-hour metrics. It almost feels like a fun ARPG hack & slash :D

What? Playing for fun? Outrageous!

Best news. Maybe someday even the clear speed meta will be toned down,though this change together with the league mechanics already does it to an extent.

About time that game started to look like something different than a cheap korean grinder.

I hope they remove the absolute trash sextant mods that people were blocking because nobody even the whiteknights like them. This is an indirect nerf to xp and loot as well but i guess in the end these people are too brainless to realize that this won't improve their gameplay at all.

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IIPheXII написал:

I hope they remove the absolute trash sextant mods that people were blocking because nobody even the whiteknights like them. This is an indirect nerf to xp and loot as well but i guess in the end these people are too brainless to realize that this won't improve their gameplay at all.

And the previous nerfs of xp gain had nothing to to with the players optimizing/exploiting the shit out of the atlas system ? Give me a break, everyone who didnt play this way had to suffer the consequences of xp nerfs, because others did. So now, that you also have to suffer the consequences of that stupid system you abused previous, you start crying while trying to hide it behind an elitist attitude.

Using sextants will still be better than not using them, but it will not be the ridicolous margin we had before, so its still a usable playstyle. On the other hand, if they hadnt done this, they would have had to adjust everything further around the existence and abuse of sextants, effectively removing all less efficient playstyles from the game. I don't know about you, but i think allowing multiple playstyles to coexist this way is better than completely fucking over one to satisfy the players of the other.

No old Bisco + sextant blocking= rip mapping?

LOL

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Towlg написал:

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Nubatron написал:

I’m not sure anything in this post is accurate. Everything he says is dead, I never did and did just fine mapping and stockpiling currency.

Found a Bisco’s, sold it.
Ended the league with like 50 Masters sextant sitting around doing nothing after getting challenge.
Only ran random breaches as I found them.


Yet somehow had 70+ exalts to spare when I was done with league. It is almost like your statement might be.....wrong.

70ex is literally nothing. If you are spend whole league to farm 70ex it just proving my points.

GG jewel for LL RF guardian alone is 150+ ex.

Making +1 shav's is like 125ex (0.5ex per shav's and 0.25*0.2 chance to hit +1 to gems and like 25 ex to 6S and 6L it with vorici).

My friend who did item and currency flip made 200ex per week of lazy flip.

Then flip some currency like your friend and stop talking. 70 ex IS a lot. You can make several GG builds that can do all content easily and that's all that matters. You might like hoarding currency for standard or RMTing, but that's irrelevant to the game.

I get so furious when I see this bullshit.

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GoldDragon32 написал:

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And all the casuals in this thread act like they gained anything lol. It's hilarious.

Non-sextant users did gain a lot. Their relative spending power in the economy compared to sextant mappers will go up tremendously.

Trader/flipper wealth is dependant on and proportional to the items and currency generated by mappers, so their economic power relative to the average mapper will be the same. But the casual mapper will now be a lot higher and the sextant mapper will be a lot lower relative to that overall mapper average. The best traders/flippers will still be the richest people around, but the casual player will be closer now, and in a stronger position economically speaking.

gold dragon is right tbh, its not about trader v mapper, traders just have a fixed stand point based on the economy, its about mappers using a million sextants vs mappers who dont. Thats where the shift is, thats where one side is losing out and the other gaining.

It was broken, it got fixed, thats about all there is to it. You all did just fine before biscos was added and then got overhyped and you were doing fine before we had sextants and shaped maps, before atlas. The only thing GGG did wrong here was letting people play like this for so long, not testing the stuff and adding things that were actually balanced and sustainable, just throwing stuff in, its a mess, well we will leave it for league after league and then people will cry when we take it out again... and here we are. bottom line is, it happened, and its better that they fixed it in the end than just left it broken forever.

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KatKira написал:

Then flip some currency like your friend and stop talking. 70 ex IS a lot. You can make several GG builds that can do all content easily and that's all that matters. You might like hoarding currency for standard or RMTing, but that's irrelevant to the game.

I get so furious when I see this bullshit.

You can get furious all you want. Why are you trying to deny his point of enjoyment? Making currency while playing the game is fun for some players while flipping is not.

Making a good min/maxed build will cost you currency and 70 ex is nothing for that. Now he needs to get out of his way of playing because of that bullshit change.

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KatKira написал:

Then flip some currency like your friend and stop talking. 70 ex IS a lot. You can make several GG builds that can do all content easily and that's all that matters. You might like hoarding currency for standard or RMTing, but that's irrelevant to the game.

I get so furious when I see this bullshit.

Farmed myself 2 Poets, farmed Oni, respecced to Oni Jugger, did all content besides Uber and Shaper by self-farm, without Biscos and Sextants, nor Breach and had quite some fun doing mostly all the maps. Maybe farmed 20 Ex. People should just play standard then.

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Teplokot написал:

Leaving your hideout was the worst idea you may have had if you want to make money in this game.

I know.

Back in 3.1 you can at least farm shaped maps with one build and gain enough currency to make another build.

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KatKira написал:

Then flip some currency like your friend and stop talking. 70 ex IS a lot. You can make several GG builds that can do all content easily and that's all that matters. You might like hoarding currency for standard or RMTing, but that's irrelevant to the game.

Flipping isn't fun. It is a game about killing monsters and not about sitting in hideout.

70ex is literally trash.

Single good amulet from elder worth like 150ex+ (some are going for mirrors).

+1 to gems shav's worth 125ex to make in average.