RIP mapping

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Nubatron написал:

Either you are pulling in 20 exalts per hour (quoted from several threads) per person pulling these shenanigans, or you are not. Based upon the average player, which I believe I'm closer to that is much more than a "Drop in an ocean." Nice try though.

It's more like 25-30ex per 14 hours if you take into account the time to sextant/sort loot/trade/convert currency into chaos and into exalteds.

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Too lazy to search, but a lesser metric from this thread:

It's closer to truth.
Thought making first exalts isn't a problem, they are from boss/lab farming, no one running vault on start of the league. It isn't even much profitable when ex=30c.

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Nubatron написал:

"Good players" dropping 35/ex per day certainly devalues the orb significantly. I have to admit though, your only points are largely surrounded with Ad Hominem so you're clearly not even worth these two sentences and I hate that I'm going to write two more with someone clearly not worth the time.

Exalted Orbs have changed in value significantly over time. No idea when you started playing; but 20C:1Ex was the ratio when I started.

And it's very good because it is means more crafted items.

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Nubatron написал:

Too lazy to search, but a lesser metric from this thread:

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lol? 70 ex? " when I was done with league" man good players are able to doo 70 ex in 2/3 days not in 2/3 months - u rekt urself with that post

"Good players" dropping 35/ex per day certainly devalues the orb significantly. I have to admit though, your only points are largely surrounded with Ad Hominem so you're clearly not even worth these two sentences and I hate that I'm going to write two more with someone clearly not worth the time.

Exalted Orbs have changed in value significantly over time. No idea when you started playing; but 20C:1Ex was the ratio when I started.

You really think anyone drops 35 pure exalts in 1 day? This is not worth my time any longer. Go troll someone else.

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Towlg написал:

It's closer to truth.
Thought making first exalts isn't a problem, they are from boss/lab farming, no one running vault on start of the league. It isn't even much profitable when ex=30c.

T14 map with insane sextant potential, medium-high density, means not only currency but also a lot of rare item drops with ilvl81+, high tier maps, and zana missions which are all great at start of a league. That strategy won't be that valid anymore so i expect shaped waste pool to be better early.

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Towlg написал:

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Nubatron написал:

Either you are pulling in 20 exalts per hour (quoted from several threads) per person pulling these shenanigans, or you are not. Based upon the average player, which I believe I'm closer to that is much more than a "Drop in an ocean." Nice try though.

It's more like 25-30ex per 14 hours if you take into account the time to sextant/sort loot/trade/convert currency into chaos and into exalteds.

You have been more reasonable to discuss with in chat and I believe I misstated with exalts per hour (misquoting other thread), and I do apologize if that is the case. The 25-30/day per person also is quite outrageous when compared to playing the game through any other manner.



I wouldn't describe my play style as far from the norm with the exception that I only do one build per league. Outside of that, I play maps as they come, place something for sale only when it is worth the hassle, and buy only when I can't get it myself. (Disclaimer: I don't view flipping as playing the game....they will always leech off the economy for their strange satisfaction)

I would never assume that my play style should ever be how everyone else does it, but I certainly don't think it is reasonable to think another play style should be 20-30 times more effective while also having a significant impact on the value of the few orbs I do find. Do you think that is reasonable? (Not being patronizing, I'm really curious what you specifically think is reasonable)

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IIPheXII написал:

T14 map with insane sextant potential, medium-high density, means not only currency but also a lot of rare item drops with ilvl81+, high tier maps, and zana missions which are all great at start of a league. That strategy won't be that valid anymore so i expect shaped waste pool to be better early.

Yes, but on first days of league you don't have enough sextants on market, full MF gear, elder/shaper influence on the map and Zana 8 for Breach.

I tried Vault w/o sextants, breach and only biscos, it's not profitable.

I think best strategy is going for boss killer or lab and then Shaped T16 with elder/shaper switch.

Waste Pool is good for XP with Sextants when you have HH, but the drop are meh.

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Nubatron написал:

I would never assume that my play style should ever be how everyone else does it, but I certainly don't think it is reasonable to think another play style should be 20-30 times more effective while also having a significant impact on the value of the few orbs I do find. Do you think that is reasonable? (Not being patronizing, I'm really curious what you specifically think is reasonable)

Well.

What you described puts shaped vault just 5x times more effective. It is with perfectly min-maxed setup, which should yield profit.

I don't see how this impact the medium prices tbh. The "anything" in this league worth 10c. When I ran Vaults I sold maybe 400-500 decent rare rings and amulets for 10c (with T2 WED+Life+resistances i.e.).

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IIPheXII написал:

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Towlg написал:

It's closer to truth.
Thought making first exalts isn't a problem, they are from boss/lab farming, no one running vault on start of the league. It isn't even much profitable when ex=30c.

T14 map with insane sextant potential, medium-high density, means not only currency but also a lot of rare item drops with ilvl81+, high tier maps, and zana missions which are all great at start of a league. That strategy won't be that valid anymore so i expect shaped waste pool to be better early.

Oh man the bullshit that's being posted in this thread by ignorant people. You think you can even remotely come close to running vaults effiently at the start of a league? Please just stop talking about this. You are just making a fool outta yourself.

totally agree mr author. we are fracked. ggg enjoys seeing us being poor

Sounds like a buff to me, just sad there will be no breach, rest is good for the game.