RIP mapping

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

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Towlg написал:

I think playing the game, running maps and killing bosses (in lategame, in first week it is profitable enough) should be a way to get good stable profit.

The problem is that your stable profit and my (the majority's) stable profit are two entirely different concepts. From where I stand, mapping does give good enough profits if you put up a shop.

Yeah, mapping isn't going to make you rich, unless you drop a mirror. Besides, I'd say having 50ex pure is already being rich; very few build-defining items cost even >10ex.

Whether you got 50ex or 5000ex doesn't make much of a difference at this point of PoE. You'll roflstomp all content either way. What's the point of minmaxing when the difference between minmaxed and non-minmaxed build is that everything dies 0.1 seconds faster?

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Miská написал:

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

Blatant lying is how you show your maturity? Hey, whatever works for you mate.

I never had an argument here. I'm just stating a fact: most of the complainers here are spoiled brats. They've been through numerous meta changes like this one, and while they barely give a fuck when skill gems get rearranged, all hell will be set loose if you dare touch the efficiency of their market lordship. They don't care about the core game, they only care about having a four digit number of exalts as easily and as soon as possible.

Besides, they'll find another broken mechanic to abuse soon enough, and then sextants will become a foot note in history, just like Perandus or Legacy.

This thread is like the circle of stupidity. It's about being able to play the game and not being forced into trading to much. Obviously you never experienced any of the things discussed, so why do you even bother responding? Besides just trolling?

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

You'll roflstomp all content either way. What's the point of minmaxing when the difference between minmaxed and non-minmaxed build is that everything dies 0.1 seconds faster?

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

Whether you got 50ex or 5000ex doesn't make much of a difference at this point of PoE. You'll roflstomp all content either way. What's the point of minmaxing when the difference between minmaxed and non-minmaxed build is that everything dies 0.1 seconds faster?

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

I've no idea what you're talking about. I don't like to trade so I don't trade, and yes that pretty much automatically makes me poor by your standards. I buy the stuff I need by making c recipes or lowballing the occasional valuable drop through public party list. None of this however is stopping me from playing the game and beating all content? How strange is that?

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Miská написал:

As you just proved you couldn't give a toss about minmaxing. And some people do. I really could care less that you are satisfied with was is achievable in 2 days. Some people aren't.

The system we had last league wasn't perfect by any means, but atleast it closed the gap abit. If you pay 50ex+ per slot you kinda are forced to trade heavily with these changes. Wich wasn't the case last league. You could actually play the game.

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Nubatron написал:

I think the underlying logic behind "Nerf Farming" then "Nerf Lab Runs" is flawed anyway. More lab runners drives down the price tag of enchants due to the supply increasing.It is a somewhat healthy participant in the economy.

The sextant blocked, breach with outrageous IIQ was mainly focused on two maps: Vault and Spider Forest. Spider Forest perhaps helped to make HH more available -- so I could debate saying this was good for the player base.

Vault on the other hand had one main reason, Abandoned Wealth and Hoarder. These increase the prevalence of Exalted Orbs significantly. Which leads to the devaluation of the Exalted Orb, making the buying power of an Exalt drop. This is effectively the same as printing money freely with the same downside....hyperinflation. I would argue this was not healthy for the economy, and drove prices of items in exalts to staggering amounts (and also seems to have shifted the perception of what is reasonable). Ultimately, not good for the economy, the game and especially those who chose not to partake in sextant shenanigans.

Unless someone can make an argument for hyperinflation being a good thing, this was an excellent change and not the same as Lab Runs.

PS: Because the economy will not be so awash in exalted orbs, the profits of Lab Runs will drop as well.

EDIT: There is one potential reason this could have been good; using the orbs for crafting but we all know that's not what happens for the masses.

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Anonymous1749704 написал:

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Miská написал:

As you just proved you couldn't give a toss about minmaxing. And some people do. I really could care less that you are satisfied with was is achievable in 2 days. Some people aren't.

The system we had last league wasn't perfect by any means, but atleast it closed the gap abit. If you pay 50ex+ per slot you kinda are forced to trade heavily with these changes. Wich wasn't the case last league. You could actually play the game.

What's more to achieve? 40 challenges and beating all content, that's about the game right now.

It seems you want to have an easier time minmaxing. However, there is literally no need to pay 50ex per slot. This is a CHOICE, and this is not a choice that the game should be balanced around. GGG has already given a way to achieve that through the trading metagame; letting players self-farm the absolute BiS mirror tier items was never the intention.

Shaped Vaults almost broke this balance. Anyone who wanted to buy expensive shit were given the nonchoice between Shaped Vaults with sextant blocking and literally everything else. What a variety.

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Nubatron написал:

This is not a live and let live type of issue. It is not like this play style had no effect on the economy, and those who chose a different path. It has a direct impact on the value of exalted orbs and the price of items. Like it or not, your preferred play style likely inflated the prices on items to the point where someone who was not playing this way would struggle to afford the silly prices of this league.

Just pulling this from another thread because I don't feel like typing it again:

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Nubatron написал:

I think the underlying logic behind "Nerf Farming" then "Nerf Lab Runs" is flawed anyway. More lab runners drives down the price tag of enchants due to the supply increasing.It is a somewhat healthy participant in the economy.

The sextant blocked, breach with outrageous IIQ was mainly focused on two maps: Vault and Spider Forest. Spider Forest perhaps helped to make HH more available -- so I could debate saying this was good for the player base.

Vault on the other hand had one main reason, Abandoned Wealth and Hoarder. These increase the prevalence of Exalted Orbs significantly. Which leads to the devaluation of the Exalted Orb, making the buying power of an Exalt drop. This is effectively the same as printing money freely with the same downside....hyperinflation. I would argue this was not healthy for the economy, and drove prices of items in exalts to staggering amounts (and also seems to have shifted the perception of what is reasonable). Ultimately, not good for the economy, the game and especially those who chose not to partake in sextant shenanigans.

Unless someone can make an argument for hyperinflation being a good thing, this was an excellent change and not the same as Lab Runs.

PS: Because the economy will not be so awash in exalted orbs, the profits of Lab Runs will drop as well.

EDIT: There is one potential reason this could have been good; using the orbs for crafting but we all know that's not what happens for the masses.

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Miská написал:

This is just silly. The small amounts of wealth being pushed into the economy from Vaults is like a drop in an ocean. Nice try though.