So melee still sucks, can we get a comment from GGG?

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Startkabels написал:

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Lord_of_Error написал:

Requesting every build to be endgame viable is a bit naive, isn't it? You always can put together stuff that doesn't work on this huge skill tree. Obviously there are builds working better than others, usually those that don't waste points and get the most effective nodes on the tree, i.e. optimised builds. By endgame I mean high level maps, getting through Merciless doesn't even require a great build, good builds will do the job. Same for gear, around 2.5-3k life, maxed resists and some armour should get you through the game on Anarchy/Standard without too much problems. If you play Onslaught/Hardcore, you are meant to play tanky there.

Yeah that is obvious stuff. So I am planning to build a Duelist with

-Shield block
-Life
-IR/Armor
-Crit
-Max resists
-Granites
-Enfeeble

People keep telling me it will not work and I should play as RT Marauder (You know, that boring build everybody uses)

You want something from every defense type, yet they work better if stacked. Relying on block below 50% is risky. Using some armour, but below 10k, that won't get you far. And unfortunately even your offense crumbles, because crit without quite some points invested into it isn't really worth it. Last but not least, your last "defense" line life also suffers, because you invested into so many other things.
Granites and Enfeeble are not there to be always up, they are there to help you through tough mobs. Max resists is a given, nothing interesting about that, it's more a gear check (and the game is balanced around that, dropping below cap is very dangerous).

Your current build (if it is the one at the top of your thread) has 200% increased crit chance with 1h weapons. Even if you had a great dagger with 10% crit chance and +80% increased crit chance, you still wouldn't crit more than 70% of the time, as you have almost no accuracy in your build:

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vasion also gives a chance to avoid critical strikes. If an incoming critical strike succeeds its hit roll, a second hit roll is performed to determine if the critical is evaded or not. This second roll is the same as the regular hit roll above (accuracy vs evasion). If this roll succeeds, a critical strike is scored. If it fails, the attack still hits, but only for regular damage.

Oh, and nobody told you to go CI Shadow. I get the impression you just don't like any advice you get. o_O

also, a critbuild without HIGH crit multi is crap. you have low crit multi.

Just make a keystone passive that buffs defense enormously in some way and makes all projectiles deal zero damage.

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JahIthBer89 написал:

Just make a keystone passive that buffs defense enormously in some way and makes all projectiles deal zero damage.

Didn't know Dischargers needed a defense buff. :P
You could expand it to "no projectile- and spell damage", but this Keystone would be a must have for each and every melee build and nothing more than a band-aid.

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HeroOfExile написал:

dude ... do what you want. im just telling you that you have to go CI instead of life to get what you want.

you have obviously no idea about crit builds but i have.

78 la crit shadow
89 crit wander (with shield, tanky! 60% crits (still a bit low)
80 crit flicker (with shield, tanky! 72% crits)

so basically i play around with critbuilds since OB, also played CB.

you think 220% is enough, this marks you as a newb. no offense.

I did not say that, however you told me 300% is minimum. Well only 80% difference no? Like 2 nodes?
I'm the noob, right? Learn to read and understand, no offence.

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HeroOfExile написал:

also, a critbuild without HIGH crit multi is crap. you have low crit multi.

Yep that is right, however Heartseeker is quite close.

Also I will loose the +Mana/Mana Regen nodes that I selected because of BM, which will free up some points. I still have room for more crit chance/life/miltiplier

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Startkabels написал:

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HeroOfExile написал:

dude ... do what you want. im just telling you that you have to go CI instead of life to get what you want.

you have obviously no idea about crit builds but i have.

78 la crit shadow
89 crit wander (with shield, tanky! 60% crits (still a bit low)
80 crit flicker (with shield, tanky! 72% crits)

so basically i play around with critbuilds since OB, also played CB.

you think 220% is enough, this marks you as a newb. no offense.

No I did not, however you told me 300% is minimum. Well only 80% difference no? Like 2 nodes?
I'm the noob, right? Learn to read and understand, no offence.

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you need about 300% critchance in tree + 5 power charges or more to name this a critbuild.
you also have to use critgems to get in a range of 50-70% crits. also lots of accuracy.

5 power charges are another 250% increased crit chance + the gems. And well, this all stands and falls with the weapon you use. You can have more than 10% crit chance as base from your weapon, or poor 5%. The latter is a bad base for many crits.
And again, don't forget the accuracy, without it half your crits will fail their second accuracy roll and be downgraded to normal hits.

l2read? im out. advising douchebags seems pointless. good luck with your "build".

also, you linked a build im refering too. now you argue "ye but i could spec this and that ..." so tell me what the hell did you link me?

Yeah and discussing with people who only play RT/Life CI/ES and disqualify everything else is also pointless

The only response I get it: Can't be done, not enough this not enough that. and then when I focus on those stats that are referred to as mandatory and can't live without them I am being told that I have to much of everything

People here tend to have tunnel vision with only 2 builds at the end: RT/Life and CI/ES.

as you know erything better, go ahead, make it.
enjoy your estimated ~30% critchance with ~78% accuracy and ~300 critmulti (critbuilds have 700+)

make a vid and show us how awesome your theorycrafting turned out :-)