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oathsworn написал:
Honestly this build is really weak and that really starts to show in act 3 cruel.
Because the damage output is so low life leech doesn't actually function for good survivability. Life gain on hit of course being even worse.
because it's a pure strength build there's no room for auras which actually make a considerable difference in how the character could work with minimal investment in other nodes.
This build is ok if you are fine with absolutely struggling in merciless and getting lit up by trash mobs.
First of all this is a guide for new players. This build will help you get a decent build that can in time defeat all difficulties. Sure it is not optimized for damage but that has already been said in the earlier pages of this thread.
Second mind proving it by showing us your build which is exactly like the OP's and the gear you are using then you will have evidence to back up your claim instead of just saying it is a weak build just because I say it is weak.
So mind going by the old phrase putting up or shutting up.
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СообщениеDoomCarpace#216112 янв. 2014 г., 02:58:02
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@Dominatethefear
You seem to have a good understanding of what you are doing. Personally I would try to change the tree to something like this and then think about end game options like adding Hatred Aura or Vaal Pact. Carnage Heart is also probably the best currency you can spend on.
@DoomCarpace
No need to respond to trolls :P
Последняя редакция: eladir#0300. Время: 12 янв. 2014 г., 04:31:05
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Сообщениеeladir#030012 янв. 2014 г., 04:30:53
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oathsworn написал:
Honestly this build is really weak and that really starts to show in act 3 cruel.
Because the damage output is so low life leech doesn't actually function for good survivability. Life gain on hit of course being even worse.
because it's a pure strength build there's no room for auras which actually make a considerable difference in how the character could work with minimal investment in other nodes.
This build is ok if you are fine with absolutely struggling in merciless and getting lit up by trash mobs.
LoL :) I can replenish 3000 hp in one second with Pact of Vall, fighting only one enemy (no Life leech skill, only from physical leech). So I think damage output is enough.
Every build's end game is gear. If you don't understand it maybe you should play some more ..
Последняя редакция: skarbziemi#6662. Время: 12 янв. 2014 г., 07:46:19
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Сообщениеskarbziemi#666212 янв. 2014 г., 07:39:11
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Quick question if i calculated that correct?
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PR0TIP! After you reach ~1000 dps you can safely swap "Life Gain on Hit" to "Life Leech".
PR0TIPIf you want estimate Life Gain on Hit versus Life Leech relation more precisely:
1. Take your dps you have multiplay it by % of damage leeched
2. Take your amount of life gained per hit and divide it by your attack speed and then multiplay it by 0.7 (for Ground Slam) or 1.5 (for Heavy Strike)
3. Compare those two values: higher means more life gained per second
DPS (ground slam): 877,8
Life Gain on Hit: 28
Attacks per Second: 2,31
Life Leech (5,3% atm) = 877,8 * 0,053 = 46,52
Life Gain on Hit = (28/2,31) * 0,7 (Ground Slam) = 8,48
1. Shouldnt i have changed to Life Leech already at ( x * 0,053 = 8,48) ergo 160 dps???
2. I assume i can switch safely to Life Leech? :P
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СообщениеPenecho83#504912 янв. 2014 г., 08:45:45
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DPS (ground slam): 877,8
Life Gain on Hit: 28
Attacks per Second: 2,31
Life Leech (5,3% atm) = 877,8 * 0,053 = 46,52
Life Gain on Hit = (28/2,31) * 0,7 (Ground Slam) = 8,48
1. Shouldnt i have changed to Life Leech already at ( x * 0,053 = 8,48) ergo 160 dps???
2. I assume i can switch safely to Life Leech? :P
Should be:
Life Gain on Hit = (28*2,31) * 0,7 (Ground Slam) = 45,28
It is logical that the more hits, the more life gained on hit.
Последняя редакция: skarbziemi#6662. Время: 12 янв. 2014 г., 09:51:11
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Сообщениеskarbziemi#666212 янв. 2014 г., 09:21:24
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eladir написал:
@thesikaleon
If you don't plan a major change (Vaal Pact and/or Hatred Aura) the most effective way to spend your next points is the 5 point with damage in the start of Marauder like this. It's ~ +13.5% phys damage per point thought until you get Butchery it will only be 10% per point.
Gear wise and gem wise you are pretty good. With 2.5 I'd be looking to replace two items. First, your 400pDPS weapon. You'll need to be on the lookout on shops for a bit but with 1 exa you can get up till ~430pDPS and with 2 exa a bit higher. Secondly the chaos res ring, it has good Life roll but only Chaos and bit of Int and Dex besides. You can find something better. A bigger but harder improvement would be to find a way to a 5L, either buy one or craft. Personally I never bothered and gathered all my currency to buy a BoR and use that for my GS.
If you are looking for a major change I'd advise what I did, Vaal Pact and 1 Hatred Aura. Only need few respec points to remove all regen and Blood Magic like this. Besides that you will need 1% or 2% mana leech to sustain your GS. You can get that as a roll on gloves and rings/amulet. Then you will be able to run Hatred linked with Reduced Mana and all your skills on mana and of course insta life steal through Vaal Pact.
thx
I changed to Vaal Pact, here my TREE
My gear now:
Next goal is weapon. Should i upgrade fast or save for a 5L Marohi?
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Сообщениеthesikaleon#467912 янв. 2014 г., 09:50:35
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You should get 5L marohi and use CE with it (added fire is not that effective if you use life leech from heart)
Great dps boost.
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Сообщениеskarbziemi#666212 янв. 2014 г., 09:54:51
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What is CE?
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Сообщениеketchupyx#418112 янв. 2014 г., 17:25:25
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Concentrated effect.
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СообщениеPanini_aux_olives#196712 янв. 2014 г., 18:02:09Почётный форумчанин
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DoomCarpace написал:
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oathsworn написал:
Honestly this build is really weak and that really starts to show in act 3 cruel.
Because the damage output is so low life leech doesn't actually function for good survivability. Life gain on hit of course being even worse.
because it's a pure strength build there's no room for auras which actually make a considerable difference in how the character could work with minimal investment in other nodes.
This build is ok if you are fine with absolutely struggling in merciless and getting lit up by trash mobs.
First of all this is a guide for new players. This build will help you get a decent build that can in time defeat all difficulties. Sure it is not optimized for damage but that has already been said in the earlier pages of this thread.
Second mind proving it by showing us your build which is exactly like the OP's and the gear you are using then you will have evidence to back up your claim instead of just saying it is a weak build just because I say it is weak.
So mind going by the old phrase putting up or shutting up.
What I mind is you wasting my time asking me for anything. Trash build is trash. That covers it. You know it, I know it, anyone with half a brain knows it. People posting builds like this ends up wasting people's time as there are a lot of restrictions concerning altering builds radically later in the game.
In the future correctly test a build and know what you're talking about before misleading new players with garbage information.
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Сообщениеoathsworn#026512 янв. 2014 г., 18:40:02
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