Bandits and Griefing on Hardcore

Awesome feature, they should implement this in more quests ^^ Hardcore is for hardcore people, not for kids who can't read and can't pvp. By dieing you just proved, that you're not ready for hardcore and u need to practice more on default. Hardcore league is just a title, nothing more. //thread

lol that's terrible.
Note to self: Never every join a public party for any quest :o

Read the description

OR

play with friends, not with random losers

OR

solo the quest

OR learn to pvp

Many solutions to the problem, use one of those instead of banging your heads against wall ;-)

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Jrgsubzero написал:

I agree with the idea that this isn't the intent.

Waiting for people to choose to kill then choosing to help and easily killing the people seems to be an over-sight for hardcore mode.

It's an interesting feature by itself in default league, but joining a game offering to help kill the boss and then killing the people is really just griefing.

Considering that the game deliberately tries to cultivate a lawless and aggressive feeling with just about everything else, I'm pretty sure that is the intent.

Gold? Wraeclast doesn't have a mint. Were starving give us something useful. --> currency items
All players have been thrown out of oriath society. --> Mostly free for all looting.
Templar --> religious fanatic, so crazy he was name a heretic by own order
Witch --> Burnt /Murdered entire village
Shadow --> assassin (murderer) /sadomasochist
Ranger --> poacher /lesbian (in universe "sexual deviant")
Duelist --> Murderer /duels for honor
Marauder --> unhinged tribal murderer
The characters are not nice people and the game does little to force the players to be nice people.

It gives you a huge warning, describing exactly what will happen to you, just because you're incapable of reading doesn't make this a flawed mechanic. If you can't handle dieing on HC, don't fucking play HC, I hate people like you the most.

In case you haven't realised, PoE is breaking the current mold of hand holding and pandering to pussys, if you need your hand held, to be led by the dick through games filled with foam just so that you can't get hurt; this probably isn't the game for you.

This is working as intended, it gives you ample warning, let's you see what your other party members are selecting and gives you the chance to simply leave the area if you don't want to continue.


TL;DR ACTUALLY FUCKING READ.

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kuek написал:

How? I didn't even know you could attack other players in this game, outside of pvp.

Exactly how am I supposed to know it flags me as an available target to them? And why in the hell would they even add that as a mechanic? Under what scenario is it beneficial to attack your own group?

The whole thing is beyond stupid, and purposely assists griefers.

story wise our characters are not allies, and only work together because they have to otherwise would gladly kill each other.

After reading thru this thread I conclude this is simply a careless player mad that he died.

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wWizard написал:

First time I did the quest, I thought of doing this. It's just too obvious. Why were you so careless? No offense.

Edit: I actually think having to fight and beat other party members that disagree with you is a freaking spectacular idea.

Whats the point? Freaking spectacular how? Awesome if you want to grief players who don't read the paragraph first? And if even I had known before hand, they could easily have said they needed to kill him and just lied.

The only people I can fathom that would support this, are those who want to use it to grief people. Of which I'm sure there are plenty. Good job GGG, support these people! /sarcasm

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xCookieMonster написал:

How could you not see this coming? I don't even have a HC champ yet, but when I did those quests and it said I could kill party members who didn't side with me, I was like "I'm never partying for this quest."

It's so obvious. Really, it is. You can't blame anyone but yourself. The devs talk about this all the time, just read the damn text and you'll be fine.

Though I do like the above posts idea. You shouldn't lose your champ if you die in this situation.

Because I decided to not read any of the quest text, I totally should have seen this coming... Yep. Totally. Maybe GGG could add more areas where players can grief those who decide not to read story text, and force them to lose thier HC characters too! Brilliant!

*boggled*

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kuek написал:

What literally pops up are two big buttons:

HELP BANDIT

KILL BANDIT

As someone who doesn't read text for story or whatever in this game, I simply clicked kill bandit and that, was that.

I seriously can't believe you think the "you should have seen it coming" argument is a valid excuse for the existence of this mechanic. In either case though, it doesn't even matter. It should not be possible to kill other HC players permanently in this manner. PERIOD.

If you can't be bothered to read 100 words do not play hardcore...

God forbid I'm a little peeved I got griefed and not killed by an actual PvE mechanic in a PvE game. If I wanted to PvP, then I'd go do that. I plan on remaking the character I lost, and won't be grouping in a PuG again. But maybe that's what GGG wants with this type of moronic quest design.

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Falange написал:

Now you know one of reasons I play solo.
Only & Always.

enjoy being a disadvantage. always.

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kuek написал:

God forbid I'm a little peeved I got griefed and not killed by an actual PvE mechanic in the game. If I wanted to PvP, then I'd go do that. I plan on remaking the character I lost, and won't be grouping in a PuG again. But maybe that's what GGG wants.

You obviously know nothing of what the developers want for this game. What did you just come around and play for open beta? oh wow you know so much

My advice? Do not play hardcore on a game you know little about, standard is there for a reason (new players).