[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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IchiMorghulis написал:

I played this build for a little over a month now and it is by far the strongest build I ever played. I think that the most important piece of gear other than a decent harbinger is a Lightning Coil. This is the end result after trying many different gem/skill combinations.

I found that split arrow/chain works best to deliver curse on hit. HoL don't work so well with this build. HoA/Elem Prolif is magical. I'm currently lvl89 my tornado shot does 13k unbuff and 20k buff 58% crit chance. my puncture is 20k/31k 65% cc without charges.

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IchiMorghulis написал:

I played this build for a little over a month now and it is by far the strongest build I ever played. I think that the most important piece of gear other than a decent harbinger is a Lightning Coil. This is the end result after trying many different gem/skill combinations.

I found that split arrow/chain works best to deliver curse on hit. HoL don't work so well with this build. HoA/Elem Prolif is magical. I'm currently lvl89 my tornado shot does 13k unbuff and 20k buff 58% crit chance. my puncture is 20k/31k 65% cc without charges.

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ChestyPuller написал:

What's the sweet spot for crit chance on this build? Right now I am running 67.7%.

Also I was considering pulling portal/faster cast out and running Vaal haste solo with no ID and instead doing a HOT (in place of HOI) with a curse on hit, assassins mark link? Doable or will I give up to much losing HOI?

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Your tree looks exactly like Sidra's, just without the frenzies ;)
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885
But yeah it is a nice spec. I've been switching between SA, Tornado Shot, Puncture and Frenzy all the time and it's really fun. And yes, I play in Beyond league (hardcore).

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BlackPie написал:

So just to be clear, HOA + ele proliferation is also worse than HOA + HOI?

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BlackPie написал:

So just to be clear, HOA + ele proliferation is also worse than HOA + HOI?

I'm going to try to explain my problem with it.

Let's consider the strength of TS. We have high area coverage, lot's of small hits and the ability to focus down single targets.

Now lets take a look at HOA. HOA provides a strong hatred-like boost to active skills. HOA also uses a high percentage of the overkill damage to deal burn damage to all surrounding foes.

Since we're using GMP, our damage is halved by default. We can improve this offset with Physical proj. damage, but the big improvement is the fact that tornado shot can hit a lot of time.

However cutting damage in half is not just a 50% decrease. We're talking about overkill damage.

Let me provide an example.

Lets assume we hit a mob with 500 HP. We hit him with 3 hits from tornado shot each dealing 200 damage (just an example). After the first 2 hits the mob would have 100 HP. THEN the last hit kills him dealing 200 damage. The overkill damage is only 100.

That damage is then multiplied by approximately 1.5 and dealt over time to all surrounding mobs. That's 150 damage over several seconds.

Now let me ask this: why would you care? It's much easier and safer to fire a second arrow barrage.

At this point you might say. Safer? Why that.

Well it's likely that you fire into mobs AHEAD of you. You can try running past them. But do you really want to leave things alive that are likely melee (since melee mobs have more HP) and just run past freaking bears, huge skeletons and golems, while waiting for them to burn to death.

Now try considering this with split arrow. Stronger single hits. Less area coverage. It's a MUCH better idea there.

So why are we still using HOA?

Because the 15% damage bonus is awesome and we have the spare mana.

So why not run Hatred+Hasted instead.

Less mana and Hatred+HoI+HoA actually synergizes better and provides higher DPS.

This obviously doesn't count for puncture. But why would you want to clear AOE with puncture hits, unless you just enjoy watching mobs burn to death....

I'm sorry for the wall of text.

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I noticed you don't run HOI, how does that work for you? Also why the Coil , over a high eva chest?

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I've been often considering running a utility shot setup, such as you do and sticking to a 4L puncture for everything else (outside of uber-atziri runs).

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I'm going to try to explain my problem with it.

Let's consider the strength of TS. We have high area coverage, lot's of small hits and the ability to focus down single targets.