[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Ilaias написал:
Hello. Try Us this build. There was such a question. I have a bow on a crit 385 pDPS.

And I'm thinking, is not it better to be me reach of the council with its 350pDPS but with additional 4 arrows


Either you have legacy Reach or you miscalculated its dps. If it is indeed 350, it is a lot better than Harbinger with 385 dps.

I have non-legacy Reach with 288 dps and my buffed dps is 120k. I could only wonder what I'd have with 350 dps Reach.
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Either you have legacy Reach or you miscalculated its dps. If it is indeed 350, it is a lot better than Harbinger with 385 dps.

I have non-legacy Reach with 288 dps and my buffed dps is 120k. I could only wonder what I'd have with 350 dps Reach.


I'm talking about the legacy Reach 360 pDSP. I am concerned that my bow is now 8.6 crit. Reach has 6 crit. My DPS tornado is now 80k. Because my build is now more directed at survival
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Silahsor написал:
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ressiv написал:

I use Blood Rage and dont use Vaal Pact. Losing life really slowly and dont need a second setup for charges. Yesterday I found an atziris flask, feels OpieOP with Pathfinder :O Pathfinder now actually starts to feel like a good choice.


Seemingly there is a lot of talk about how OP Pathfinder is. Some major "balancing" (read Nerf) may be on the way. :)

That being said, I am really curious how a "budget" PF fares - if such a thing exists. The flasks to get the most out of char seems to be expensive.


I'm a budget PF.
1 chaos Harbinger 5L, 5L Kintsugi, etc. I've spent maybe 30-40 chaos along the way on gear. Flasks were cheap as I only got an Atziri's promise. a simple Sulfur flask serves as our 2nd dmg flask. You also have 2 divines for healing and quicksilver for speed. If I had a better bow I'd probably swap the sulfur for a stibnite.

How has a budget pathfinder faired? Lets just say I wouldn't try this in Hardcore. In ESC it's been a squishy experience. Many one shots, many swarmed deaths. I'm 99% sure I stand no chance against guardians and Shaper. I've cleared and done completions of most t10 maps excluding uniques, often solo. At t11+ things get sketchy.

I think the budget BV pathfinders fare better, I've heard they can take on Uber izaro and Shaper.


I'm looking forward to the updated guide as I need to kill the guardians and shaper.
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Silahsor написал:
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ressiv написал:

I use Blood Rage and dont use Vaal Pact. Losing life really slowly and dont need a second setup for charges. Yesterday I found an atziris flask, feels OpieOP with Pathfinder :O Pathfinder now actually starts to feel like a good choice.


Seemingly there is a lot of talk about how OP Pathfinder is. Some major "balancing" (read Nerf) may be on the way. :)

That being said, I am really curious how a "budget" PF fares - if such a thing exists. The flasks to get the most out of char seems to be expensive.


I'm a budget PF.
1 chaos Harbinger 5L, 5L Kintsugi, etc. I've spent maybe 30-40 chaos along the way on gear. Flasks were cheap as I only got an Atziri's promise. a simple Sulfur flask serves as our 2nd dmg flask. You also have 2 divines for healing and quicksilver for speed. If I had a better bow I'd probably swap the sulfur for a stibnite.

How has a budget pathfinder faired? Lets just say I wouldn't try this in Hardcore. In ESC it's been a squishy experience. Many one shots, many swarmed deaths. I'm 99% sure I stand no chance against guardians and Shaper. I've cleared and done completions of most t10 maps excluding uniques, often solo. At t11+ things get sketchy.

I think the budget BV pathfinders fare better, I've heard they can take on Uber izaro and Shaper.


I'm looking forward to the updated guide as I need to kill the guardians and shaper.


2 Life pots and a quicksilver no wonder you are squishy. Quicksilver in normal situations is a waste imo as a PF. Use a Jade instead and a Basalt instead of one health pot. Your defense should skyrocket.
Currently hitting somewhat of a wall at lv85. I can't go higher than T10 maps without dieing at least once inside which kills my progress due to the massive exp loss relative to what I get from the map. I can't even beat Uber Izaro to get my last two points (was planning to get Puncture to up m single target damage as AoE is already fatntastic). I was planning to save up for a Reach of the Council but it seems I need more durability first; I don't where from, though. 5.3k HP, capped resists.


https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAABeBS0FtQYjCC4IiQqbDY0PqxEvE9oVQxa_GY4hdiPTI_YmlTBxMHwx-jKUNj051DpCPs9DMUp9S3hM_02STipRR1O7VP5VS1oaW69daGHiYqxlTWyMbWxvJ2_ycFJ07XXLdvd463sUfXV_An8rhs6HdonTjDaNfY1-jb-QCpS4lQWVzJpqmvGbjZ2qoJ-hpKbgp9SxAbVIu-O9Nr3mvqe_1cEzwUnDM8SiyNzKqc2Yz17TftQj2cbawd2o4dvjn-cK53To1um96mLrY-0_7YPvevC7-WP8xf4d_rr-yA==?accountName=Inkaflare&characterName=LiannaTheDeadeye

Can anyone give me some pointers? Maybe I should just switch to Pathfinder as perma-flasks seems pretty fucking OP, but I know I won't be able to afford all the high-end flasks like Taste of Hate and Dying Sun. I'm not sure if it will still be better than Deadeye in that case, but good blue flasks are really easy to get.
Последняя редакция: Inkaflare#2394. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 19:55:38
Can I get some help here? I don't feel like my Tornado Shot ranger is as strong as it should be at level 84. I can't even finish Merc Lab on my own and I don't feel like I'm strong enough for normal T9+ maps. I read comments on here that say they have DPS of 100k+. When I look at my ingame DPS, my Tornado Shot only shows 3.8k with Hatred and Herald of Ash on. I think it goes up to 7k when I am fully buffed. Also, according to my in-game death count, I've died 300+ times already. Did I mess up by going Raider? I was level 70+ before I found this guide and I don't feel like rerolling.



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeBS0FtQYjCC4NjREvEvEWvxcmGY4hdiLqI_Yk_SaVKjgqWy1NL3IwfDH6MgEylDY9OdRDMUd-Sn1M_02STipRR1LsVUtVhVoaW69h4mKsZU1noGuQbIxwUnTtdct1_Xb3eoR673sUfXV_An8rgl6Eb4bOh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo2_lQWbJpuNnaqgn6Gko4qly6bgp9Sv67IZtMW1SLe2u-O9Nr6nwTPBScLswzPDOsSiyNzPetN-1CPUQtnG2sHh2-Of51To1upi6xTrY-2D7g7vevzF_h3-uv7I_94=?accountName=brianbrian&characterName=OakMamba

Последняя редакция: brianbrian#0410. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 20:40:50
Could you take a look at me and tell me what i should be upgrading? Appreciate it. I can't even seem to do Act 4 without dying at level 81.
I've been using this build. Char is at 61. But I have 1.9k health and I'm getting oneshotted in A3 Merciless. What should I do to get more defense? I've been using the leveling skilltree.
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brianbrian написал:
Can I get some help here? I don't feel like my Tornado Shot ranger is as strong as it should be at level 84. I can't even finish Merc Lab on my own and I don't feel like I'm strong enough for normal T9+ maps. I read comments on here that say they have DPS of 100k+. When I look at my ingame DPS, my Tornado Shot only shows 3.8k with Hatred and Herald of Ash on. I think it goes up to 7k when I am fully buffed. Also, according to my in-game death count, I've died 300+ times already. Did I mess up by going Raider? I was level 70+ before I found this guide and I don't feel like rerolling.



The main problem is your bow. Go to poe.trade, search for Lioneye's Glare, max price 1 chaos and sort by dps. That alone should give you at least 5x more dps.

Also buy a cheap 6-link body armour. With 20 chaos, you can buy corrupted body armor with ~90 life and ~50% random resists. Search with R-G-G-G-G-B links, since you can't chrome them later. It takes a while for someone to sell that particular body armor, but it's worth it.

Link Tornado Shot with Physical to Lightning, Weapon Elemental Damage, Physical Projectile Attack Damage, Faster Attacks and Greater Multiple Projectiles. This should give you nice damage boost over 4-link setup.

Buy Atziri's Promise, it costs 1 fusing now. Also use other utility flask. Test what works.

Try to get 65, preferably 75+ life to each slot wherever it's possible. Like rings, amulet and belt at least.
Последняя редакция: Wermine#1485. Время: 9 окт. 2016 г., 17:44:14
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Wermine написал:
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brianbrian написал:
Can I get some help here? I don't feel like my Tornado Shot ranger is as strong as it should be at level 84. I can't even finish Merc Lab on my own and I don't feel like I'm strong enough for normal T9+ maps. I read comments on here that say they have DPS of 100k+. When I look at my ingame DPS, my Tornado Shot only shows 3.8k with Hatred and Herald of Ash on. I think it goes up to 7k when I am fully buffed. Also, according to my in-game death count, I've died 300+ times already. Did I mess up by going Raider? I was level 70+ before I found this guide and I don't feel like rerolling.



The main problem is your bow. Go to poe.trade, search for Lioneye's Glare, max price 1 chaos and sort by dps. That alone should give you at least 5x more dps.

Also buy a cheap 6-link body armour. With 20 chaos, you can buy corrupted body armor with ~90 life and ~50% random resists. Search with R-G-G-G-G-B links, since you can't chrome them later. It takes a while for someone to sell that particular body armor, but it's worth it.

Link Tornado Shot with Physical to Lightning, Weapon Elemental Damage, Physical Projectile Attack Damage, Faster Attacks and Greater Multiple Projectiles. This should give you nice damage boost over 4-link setup.

Buy Atziri's Promise, it costs 1 fusing now. Also use other utility flask. Test what works.

Try to get 65, preferably 75+ life to each slot wherever it's possible. Like rings, amulet and belt at least.


Hm, about the body armor, do you mean ~90 life and just 1 resist mod? I will lose a lot of my resist stats if I replace the armor since the current one is triple resist. And I will lose a lot of evasion points. Besides, the cheapest I see on poe.trade with just 1 resist mod and life mod is 1 ex o_o

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