POE - One Year Later

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Altnaharra написал:
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DirkAustin написал:
So it has minecraft graphics with a lot to read? Sounds cool. Thx for an answer. :)

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Im not ashamed i never played D&D.

nonono, not minecraft... that's too advanced.

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Don't get me wrong, these things were all the rage before Ultima online


Please forgive the sidetracking.




Hahahaha, this is a sidetrack I will never mind. Perhaps I'll write a sonnet in loving memory of MUDs.
Thanks for all the fish!
Nice feedback. I wish GGG will focus someday on optimization. Game still has plenty of bugs and quality of life flaws:

1) Sound stuttering
2) FPS spikes (maybe related to ^)
3) Loading times
4) Rain... really GGG?
5) Last online in friends list.

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MCSMvsME написал:
Nice feedback. I wish GGG will focus someday on optimization. Game still has plenty of bugs and quality of life flaws:

1) Sound stuttering
2) FPS spikes (maybe related to ^)
3) Loading times
4) Rain... really GGG?
5) Last online in friends list.



Number 5 should really be a thing, not sure about number 4, has never been bad, number 3 i guess when starting the game.

I feel this game could have been in beta all of 2014 quite frankly and released with act 4, but that ship has sailed.
I've had some difficulty getting back to finish out this thread, so maybe small bits until I'm done. Here is what I just added:

Continued Suggestions - 12.29.2014

GGG Supporters

General Commentary:
I think the forum titles are a great way for individuals to display their support of the game and be proud of their contributions to the game and the community. Unfortunately the current support ‘swag’ only applies to those that buy a very specific support pack – and neglects the various other supporters who may actually have had more impact both financially and through other non-monetary based means.
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Suggestion: Create forum titles for other heavy supporters of Path of Exile.

Examples:
Rookie Supporter: Support exceeding $50.00
Veteran Supporter: Support exceeding $500.00
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Interstellar Supporter: Support exceeding $500,000,000.00

Reason: This would include all purchases, not just support pack so that supporters of all types are given the opportunity to demonstrate their proud support of this game and community.

Counterargument: This may be an indirect shaming technique for those that do not support, that can currently hide in anonymity of possibly only buying MTX or stash tabs outside of support packs. This approach would specifically call out folks who do not financially contribute – possibly leaving them open to shaming indirectly. I could completely understand this being a bad idea because of this.
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Suggestion: Create forum titles for certain elite achievements.

Examples:
#1 [Insert League] League
Top 10 Torment League
Level 100 Beyond League
Level 100 Standard League (Yup, I said it)

Reason: Gaming swag. What else is there to say? Although this may not seem like a support type role, this is a gaming industry that needs gaming elites that support simply by playing. It attracts people to play – look at the influx/outflow associated with some of the streamers in the past. This type of ‘swag’ might mean little to them so might be pointless.
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Boss Only Skill Gems

Suggestion: Make Gems that only drop off of specific bosses.

Example (this is only an example, not a real skill gem suggestion):

Touch of God
Attribute(s) Strength, Intelligence
Keywords Attack, AoE, Melee. Lightning
Required Level 70 to 90
Mana Cost 32 to 68
Radius 25
Attack Speed 3 Seconds
Damage effectiveness 500%
Per 1% Quality 1% increased Area of Effect

Slam the ground with your melee weapon or fists inflicting area damage
50% of weapon increased attack speed modifier applies to skill
30% to 59% more Physical Damage
50% to 25% less Accuracy Rating
50% of Physical Damage converted to Lightning Damage
Deals 500% of Base Damage
Cannot block or evade attacks during channeling
Palace Map Dominus Drop Only

Reason: Might be another incentive to fight bosses if certain gems only drop off of certain bosses – particularly if they are top tier skill gems like Multistrike, Concentrated Effect…or even the Enhance/Empower level rarity.
Thanks for all the fish!
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The game does not cater to the instant gratification crowd also – some view this as a terrible thing. I honestly believe this is one of the crowning achievements. It makes the reward worth so much more *if* you get it. I love that it is more of an ‘if’ than a ‘when’


I'm not sure how you can say this.

Anything and everything can be bought. Any RNG can, by design, be circumvented or forced with currency. The game not only encourages buying and selling, rushing, selling boss kills, quick progression, skipping etc.. but actively discourages long term slow progression. The model even goes so far as to harshly interrupt and disrupt those that don't seek instant gratification, every 4 months. Which is a very short time in as far as progression goes in RPGs.

I'm like, WTF? PoE is more 'instant gratification' than I have ever known.
Casually casual.

Последняя редакция: TheAnuhart#4741. Время: 29 дек. 2014 г., 17:00:55
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TheAnuhart написал:
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The game does not cater to the instant gratification crowd also – some view this as a terrible thing. I honestly believe this is one of the crowning achievements. It makes the reward worth so much more *if* you get it. I love that it is more of an ‘if’ than a ‘when’


I'm not sure how you can say this.

Anything and everything can be bought. The game not only encourages buying and selling, rushing, selling boss kills, quick progression, skipping etc.. but actively discourages long term slow progression. The model even goes so far as to harshly interrupt and disrupt those that don't seek instant gratification, every 4 months. Which is a very short time in as far as progression goes in RPGs.

I'm like, WTF? PoE is more 'instant gratification' than I have ever known.


The currency/items to trade and buy services does not magically appear in your inventory. Unless I'm missing something :)
Thanks for all the fish!
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Nubatron написал:

The currency/items to trade and buy services does not magically appear in your inventory. Unless I'm missing something :)


Too many people act like as if they do. Not sure if RMTers :P
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Nubatron написал:
The currency/items to trade and buy services does not magically appear in your inventory. Unless I'm missing something :)


Correct.

A shav's doesn't drop instantly.
The currency to buy it doesn't magically appear instantly.
It appears as easily as twatting Dominus repeatedly for a few days.

Now that might not meet your definition of instant gratification for one of the most coveted and rarest items in the game, but it sure does mine.
Casually casual.

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TheAnuhart написал:
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Nubatron написал:
The currency/items to trade and buy services does not magically appear in your inventory. Unless I'm missing something :)


Correct.

A shav's doesn't drop instantly.
The currency to buy it doesn't magically appear instantly.
It appears as easily as twatting Dominus repeatedly for a few days.

Now that might not meet your definition of instant gratification for one of the most coveted and rarest items in the game, but it sure does mine.


Again, I must be doing it wrong because a few days on Dominus would not net the 80-120ex for a Shavs in Standard without some significant luck on my side (at least that is what the price was the last time I checked in standard). I reference standard because that is the league you play consistently from what I can tell.

I've done my share of Dominus runs in temp leagues and standard. Easily in the 1000's at this point, large portion of them with 450/120 IIR/IIQ. My Waypoint to Dominus dead times was ~6minutes with another ~3-5 minutes to sell and stash the 20-30 rares on the ground. I know people do it faster, but that isn't too bad for a non-hardcore gamer.

I actually did a 4 day dominus killing montage while my family was gone for a long weekend. It was a non-stop coffee driven dominus slaughter fest that ended with one notable unique (and on the last run where I said literally: This is the last one) -- Bringer of Rain. This was in the domination league. That long 4 day weekend didnt even come close to netting enough to get a shavs. I'm not ruling out that I'm incompetent...it's highly possible; but I suspect it might be likely that your time has been spent mostly (if not all) self-found and you have a clouded vision of what color the grass is on the other side of the fence.

I respect your playstyle, and more importantly your lack of 'push' to change the game to accommodate your playstyle -- but I truly think you overestimate the effectiveness of trading by stating a few days of Dominus will net a Shavs. It could, hell you could have 15 shavs drop in a single run....but on average I do not believe this is the case.

Or, prove me wrong. I believe you are a subject matter expert on the difficulties of playing this game self found. You are also highly critical of trading and how 'easy' it makes the game, a playstyle I don't think you partake in much if at all. Actions speak louder than words though. Play the temp league and trade -- and post your shavs after 10 days -- level/build in a week (even though it only takes a day) to get to a level capable of killing Dominus and 3 days of Dominus. So 10 days, post the shavs. I'm not saying it's impossible, of course it's not...but not nearly as easy as you say it is. I know you wont do this; it was more to paint a picture of what I think you just said and why I truly believe your vision on this matter is cloudy.
Thanks for all the fish!
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Nubatron написал:
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Did you just dispute what I said by concluding "Nah, I think it might be pushing it to acquire the currency to buy one of the 'best' and rarest items in game by hitting a piñata for 3 days, possibly a bit longer" in this game that makes instant gratification oh so no no?

Ask yourself this...

Why did a permanent league open beta turn into a 4 monthly restart, then into a 3 monthly restart model?

I'll answer it for you, because the majority are gratified and bored after only 2 to 3 months.
Why? Because the game rewards and encourages people to path of least resistance, fast track, race, compete and complete asap.

The game is not only instant gratification if played as GGG intended, it further rewards those who seek and achieve instant gratification, in many ways.

I liked your OP, Nubatron, but that one paragraph stood out like a Finbarr Saunders line in a Sunday Service.

I mean, come on "does not cater to"?

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It fucking TARGETS that 'crowd'.
Casually casual.

Последняя редакция: TheAnuhart#4741. Время: 29 дек. 2014 г., 19:59:13

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