[2.2] 100% chaos ICE TRAPPER - UBER down (T15 Abyss Double Boss fight in 10 sec!!)

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Vendetta написал:
how do you get frenzy charges with this build ?...I understand powercharges from blast cascade but what about frenzy ?


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eviL_Bison написал:
They double dip, yes.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think:
Its not 10% to Trapdamage + 10% cold + 10% fire +10% Chaos. its more 10% damage for the skill/damage of the skill + 10% to the poison damage.

Reasoning:

The calculation would be something like this

lets say we have 100 Cold damage that gets converted to fire and then chaos. we have 10% inc fire and 10% inc cold aswell 10% trap damage and chaos.

it will be:

100 * (0.1 fire damage + 0.1 colddamage + 0.1 chaosdamage + 0.1 trap damage) = 140 Damage at the end.

If we add %damage as increase it will be counted like a other increase.

->

100 * (0.1 fire damage + 0.1 colddamage + 0.1 chaosdamage + 0.1 trap damage + 0.1 damage) = 150 Damage at the end.

If we add a multiplier like trapdamage the calc would look like this:

100 * (0.1 fire damage + 0.1 colddamage + 0.1 chaosdamage + 0.1 trap damage) * 1.4 (Trap & mine damage gem) = 196 Damage at the end. (210 if we add the 10% damage too)

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Please correct me if I got this wrong, in my understanding, thats the way how it works. (shown above is without any crit ofc)

edit: typos

This looks essentially correct for base damage. As you mentioned in your post, we also get poison damage though because our Consuming Darks cause chaos damage to poison; in the example DPS calculations above, poison damage is omitted.
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Nuya написал:
I need advice from you guys, I can't decide.
I'm playing this build in HC Perandus right now.
I can't really decide which curse would help more Temp Chains or Enfeeble.
I guess the Poison Buff from Temp Chains is pretty useless, cause you have enough damage anyway?

I thought about going dual curse, but don't want to selfcast it, dual blasphemy would be reserve too much mana, then I have to drop HoI which I don't want.
An other Thought was Curse on Hit, maybe with Vaal Thundertrap?

thanks for the advice guys :)

Our damage is very high. Dropping HoI in order to run a 2nd curse, especially in hardcore, seems very worthwhile to me.

I wouldn't recommend a curse-on-hit setup; too much busy-work. Even manual cursing is too much. I recommend a blasphemy setup to apply at least one if not two curses and then just tossing Ice Traps for DPS. For bosses, tossing a Vaal Lightning trap and quaffing a DPS potion makes sense as well, but for general map clearing, just toss Ice Trap clusters.
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As an aside... whenever I play hardcore, I just don't want to die no matter what.

Although this build offers phenomenal DPS, survivability is extremely sketchy.

I would be very frustrated leveling this build to high 80's only to die to some unexpected one-shot - very, very possible.

If that's OK with you, than this build will be very fun, even in hardcore.

If not, I'd run a Dual Righteous Fire Totem build for sure; massively OP, and incredibly safe. Hell, it can even do Uber if you're bored and don't mind risking a trip to standard.
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Biggilus написал:
Crit this, crit that, to me this is alllll about the EO. I love that skill. Those who say you have to get too close to the mobs for Orb of Storms, I just don't get that.

I have to say this is the fastest, safest and most fun build I've played. Currently sitting at level 88 with 4.4k hps, MoM, EB, ZO, AA and enfeeble on, a 6L Carcass (31 fuses :D ) and it's just screenwide domination.

Never hit Atziri until this build and I didn't understand the mechanics - it was from one stage to the next with hardly any casting inbetween due to the insane DPS output.

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Happy my idea works for you :) But there are ways to make it less points hungry ;)
I cannot for the life of me add text to that above Quote...

But pray tell, where am I overspending points?

Ta
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eviL_Bison написал:
Thats true, but when this will come, a new meta will rise and we will figure it out how to use it. Even as trap :D

There are so many inexpensive, ultra powerful builds this league that it's hard to figure out GGG's intent.

Either GGG didn't do enough testing and let so many powerful builds emerge this league.... or, by design, they want to let many more players experience and conquer their top-end content.

Either way though, I usually start each league with a known-to-be solid, but not spectacular, magic find build. I play this MF build to 90, do some MF, read the forums, and find some build that looks fun and that is extremely powerful.

This league I started flame totem, Iron Will, converted to chaos damage. A very solid build, capable of clearing most maps, but probably would struggle with Uber.

I've always liked traps, and saw this thread. So my second build is of course a chaos-ice trapper.

Once I get 40 challenges complete, I'll run a bunch of Atziris to get fragments to run Uber.

Once I down Uber, I think I'll finish up this league with a chaos spark build.
Последняя редакция: hankinsohl#1231. Время: 13 апр. 2016 г., 11:02:06
Maybe I'm blind, dumb, or both. But what did everyone take as their ascendancy talents? I don't see it anywhere on the TC's post.
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Jouchebag написал:
Maybe I'm blind, dumb, or both. But what did everyone take as their ascendancy talents? I don't see it anywhere on the TC's post.

Saboteur - Chain Reaction/Blinding Assault.
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Biggilus написал:
I cannot for the life of me add text to that above Quote...

But pray tell, where am I overspending points?

Ta


Knowledge costs.. At least it will cost me more if i spoil my findings xD
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