[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Kelvynn написал:

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VGLance написал:

Overall the build is solid, but doesn't come close to my golem build in ease of survivability and clear speed. There are way too many map mod combos that will result in you getting one shot even if you have 15k ES. By being forced to stop to cast AND be close enough to leech creates a flaw in the design. With golem and totem builds, you are free to focus entirely on making sure you don't get in range of being one shot.

Hah, I must have missed this post until somebody else replied to it.

WTF are you talking about? What map mod combos? Examples please? The demo video shows some really nasty combos. It sounds like you are talking about getting 1-shot by trash while clearing. You have to use really bad gear to get 1-shot by trash with this build.


I'm traveling so I'm not sure if there is an easy way to link my build from my cell phone but my profile is public, character name is Alina__Li. I passed 1500 int and I believe 7.7k ES. I had to switch out of SR to self cast because of crashing which others even with extreme machines like mine are having an issue with, but that shouldn't matter because you should be doing even more dmg using spell echo and ele focus.

Case in point, I am one shotting trash no problem. But not rares. My golems one shot rares and I spent less on that build and it also has a much higher clear speed. And I still am not leeching enough to counter the damage taken by certain bosses or packs with rares. This forces me to have to cast and run back too often to get any kind of rythem. I get that this is not a clear speed build but there must be something I'm missing as others are missing too because there seems to be a large gap in what people are experiencing even among those with over 1500 int and 7k+ ES.

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VGLance написал:

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Kelvynn написал:

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VGLance написал:

Overall the build is solid, but doesn't come close to my golem build in ease of survivability and clear speed. There are way too many map mod combos that will result in you getting one shot even if you have 15k ES. By being forced to stop to cast AND be close enough to leech creates a flaw in the design. With golem and totem builds, you are free to focus entirely on making sure you don't get in range of being one shot.

Hah, I must have missed this post until somebody else replied to it.

WTF are you talking about? What map mod combos? Examples please? The demo video shows some really nasty combos. It sounds like you are talking about getting 1-shot by trash while clearing. You have to use really bad gear to get 1-shot by trash with this build.

I'm traveling so I'm not sure if there is an easy way to link my build from my cell phone but my profile is public, character name is Alina__Li. I passed 1500 int and I believe 7.7k ES. I had to switch out of SR to self cast because of crashing which others even with extreme machines like mine are having an issue with, but that shouldn't matter because you should be doing even more dmg using spell echo and ele focus.

Case in point, I am one shotting trash no problem. But not rares. My golems one shot rares and I spent less on that build and it also has a much higher clear speed. And I still am not leeching enough to counter the damage taken by certain bosses or packs with rares. This forces me to have to cast and run back too often to get any kind of rythem. I get that this is not a clear speed build but there must be something I'm missing as others are missing too because there seems to be a large gap in what people are experiencing even among those with over 1500 int and 7k+ ES.

You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too.

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You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too.

How is making the spell last longer going to increase dps/leech? Especially on the majority of bosses that move? I understand you get about two more seconds of duration but unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanics, I don't need the storm to last longer, I need it to do more damage while it's storming.

And yes my gloves don't have int, but I'm already at over 1500 int and people have claimed much better results and higher tier map success with less int than me.

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VGLance написал:

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You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too.

How is making the spell last longer going to increase dps/leech? Especially on the majority of bosses that move? I understand you get about two more seconds of duration but unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanics, I don't need the storm to last longer, I need it to do more damage while it's storming.

And yes my gloves don't have int, but I'm already at over 1500 int and people have claimed much better results and higher tier map success with less int than me.

Well more duration is literally the same as more dmg.

You have more icestorms on the boss, with more duration.

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VGLance написал:

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You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too.

How is making the spell last longer going to increase dps/leech? Especially on the majority of bosses that move? I understand you get about two more seconds of duration but unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanics, I don't need the storm to last longer, I need it to do more damage while it's storming.

And yes my gloves don't have int, but I'm already at over 1500 int and people have claimed much better results and higher tier map success with less int than me.

Icestorm creates chilled ground, so more duration means that with a single storm they'll get trapped longer and receive more damage.

Can someone share your exp/hr of clearing shaped mesa (and lv)? I'd like to get an idea on what other's clear speed is :-)

BTW, OP said two Quicksilver provided +70% speed, but it looks that the effect doesn't stack?

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vbvan написал:

Can someone share your exp/hr of clearing shaped mesa (and lv)? I'd like to get an idea on what other's clear speed is :-)

BTW, OP said two Quicksilver provided +70% speed, but it looks that the effect doesn't stack?

40% from itself and up to 30% with "of Adrenaline".

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Levirael написал:

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vbvan написал:

Can someone share your exp/hr of clearing shaped mesa (and lv)? I'd like to get an idea on what other's clear speed is :-)

BTW, OP said two Quicksilver provided +70% speed, but it looks that the effect doesn't stack?

40% from itself and up to 30% with "of Adrenaline".

Plus you can roll "less duration /inc effect" and it gives even more.

Question: Thinking about buying a better belt for my char, just noticed crystal belts are kinda expensive (ES + Int), so here is my question, maybe someone can clarify:

If i buy a cheap crystal belt and use an orb of scouring on it, will it still have the Energy shield on it? So i can use an essence afterwards?

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Inferius90 написал:

Life leech gem is not enough?

Not for the endgame.

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Can't just run 2 curses instead of 3?

You can, but T16 will be significantly harder. Why choose between the boss attacking slower or hitting you for less when you can have both?

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Grimstarz написал:

In the guide he uses 2 staffs, one for clearing mobs, and the other for bosses (culling strike).
Why does he have 1 with 2x 3-links and another 5-link staff? Why not 2 5-link staffs? (or even 6l)

See the Links section. Only 2L is required, 3L for more efficient clearing. The rest of the links can be anything you roll randomly. And I 5L'd my swap staff just for HoGM because I like farming that particular zone and I don't like dying to mull_gubben (see the Boss Guide).

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rossko написал:

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rossko написал:

Well i came back to this build this league (played it before cwc) and its still great :D.

But i have two questions:

1. Was about to swap Doedreds scorn for Black Sun Crest at 1342 int (without any helmet) but it gives me only like 300 dmg and i loose nearly 400 es with Black Sun instead of Doedreds.
Is it rly worth it at all!?


2. I am only at 7,5k es (7,9 with doedreds) at lvl 79 and decent gear. How do you reach 8,5k+?
I cant see you taking any more es nodes till lvl 90 and not even a lot of int either.

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Sorry have to repeat myself cause i rly cant understand why you have so much more es

1. Yes. Trading 400 ES for 300 tooltip damage is worth it. It will actually give you more damage once you get the sockets that come at lv 88 and 92.

2. My char is lv 92. See the Leveling Guide. There are several Int nodes that you take on the way there (60 raw Int x mods from your items) and 2 jewel sockets. If you use jewels that give Int you get higher ES than with pure DPS jewels.

My profile is public, items and tree is all here. If you can't understand how it will work, level to 92 and see for yourself. Your items are fine. Get jewels similar to mine for better comparison. Lv 21 Discipline is not expensive either.

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VGLance написал:

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You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too.

How is making the spell last longer going to increase dps/leech? Especially on the majority of bosses that move? I understand you get about two more seconds of duration but unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanics, I don't need the storm to last longer, I need it to do more damage while it's storming.

And yes my gloves don't have int, but I'm already at over 1500 int and people have claimed much better results and higher tier map success with less int than me.

Most bosses don't move that often. Stacking more Icestorms means more damage. Having Icestorm last 5.5 sec instead of 3.5 sec makes a big difference. You also mentioned trouble killing trash and rares. Those mobs don't even get to move once Icestorm starts hitting them because they get stun-locked (Icestorm + WM).

You also don't have the 3rd curse - TC. Bosses move a lot less with TC.

If you switched to self-cast, you should take Deep Thoughts and use Enlighten. You probably run out of mana a lot and stop casting, which contributes to your problems.