[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

Morning

Nice build looking forward to use this build in 3.0

Did post a stupid post regarding tree. My mistake should have looked closer.

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mika2salo написал:

Scion is ok for MF, as Elementalist doesn't add as much value anymore. Farming T11 maps, the elemental immunity would be pretty much overkill and you can use "Guardian" Ascendancy for extra speed or "Raider" for extra move speed and onslaught speed boost with "Victarios Charity" charges.

Elementalist was very nice, even for T11. I've used to run every crazy map and I wouldn't be able to finish them all if I wasn't killing while dead. I'm writing about some of the beyond bosses. Golems didn't care. :]


As for scion, I was thinking elementalist + one of those:
- slayer for that 40% damage vs rares and bosses (which are slowest for golems)
- raider for onslaught boost
- pathfinder for that sweet 30% deps while on flask
Can't see why guardian is better really.

Here's the tree I came up with really quickly:
https://poeplanner.com/AAgAAQkACBAAAIHYTZSg2mIYVmh0-ehBh7c-_grYvTWS_o9N46ZXOuHyRYPMPC2DX4LHKPq4kxzcjxrr7prgRZ1TUsauxPavpxzOK1ANzf5UC2GvbGjy8B-iAASzcqmJ2GhY15asqlnzGjiQVScvcg-Ub2ZUkBF7w4qvSsi18ngNwBpvO3yDES0snLzqakMI9OyKa9tMs9Af7-s7KAOWbj2-gAQHg9tVxjpYrJj318y8qsSFYE25YEODCW-e8bNLV8DjykpfsJu1hMVuqj8nKk0A7izphrNH4iLipDnT-6h9WpFqrG0ZIvRsC5Mn74j5N9fPSbG-iqEv4q0J2cpGIFl7bpchwXwh0Kav8tIAAAAAAA==

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jgundlach написал:

Morning

Nice build looking forward to use this build in 3.0

I just have a question looking at the tree. How to start of.

You have a left and right side. Then left and right side gets connected in the middle. How to follow tree from start. Would be much appreciated.

When to start using normal "jewels" not unique once.

Morning and thank you very much! :)

I have leveling skill trees on guide selection "Leveling Guide -> Skill Tree". Very detailed instructions what points to take and when.

You can start using the 2x rare "all minions get 8-10% all elemental damage" as soon as you can find few in decent price. They cost about 1-5c piece if not picky on other mods.

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Elementalist was very nice, even for T11. I've used to run every crazy map and I wouldn't be able to finish them all if I wasn't killing while dead. I'm writing about some of the beyond bosses. Golems didn't care. :]


As for scion, I was thinking elementalist + one of those:
- slayer for that 40% damage vs rares and bosses (which are slowest for golems)
- raider for onslaught boost
- pathfinder for that sweet 30% deps while on flask
Can't see why guardian is better really.

Here's the tree I came up with really quickly:
https://poeplanner.com/AAgAAQkACBAAAIHYTZSg2mIYVmh0-ehBh7c-_grYvTWS_o9N46ZXOuHyRYPMPC2DX4LHKPq4kxzcjxrr7prgRZ1TUsauxPavpxzOK1ANzf5UC2GvbGjy8B-iAASzcqmJ2GhY15asqlnzGjiQVScvcg-Ub2ZUkBF7w4qvSsi18ngNwBpvO3yDES0snLzqakMI9OyKa9tMs9Af7-s7KAOWbj2-gAQHg9tVxjpYrJj318y8qsSFYE25YEODCW-e8bNLV8DjykpfsJu1hMVuqj8nKk0A7izphrNH4iLipDnT-6h9WpFqrG0ZIvRsC5Mn74j5N9fPSbG-iqEv4q0J2cpGIFl7bpchwXwh0Kav8tIAAAAAAA==

Hi!

Elementalist sure is nice and if harbingers are elemental damage types, it can help even in T11.

The minions don't get damage bonus from your damage bonuses, so "Slayer" and "Pathfinder" wont speed Golems killing bosses. "Raider" gets the onslaught, but you need the "Victarios Charity" -shield with "Necromantic Aegis" node for minions to generate you enough frenzy charges to keep it up. "Guardian" is usually used as it gives attack speed for minions around it and has good defensive stats.

Your skill tree looks good, but you are not taking "Necromantic Aegis" so you wont get charges. Also many summoner items are ES based, so you might get more EHP going hybrid.

Pure life is great for builds that can use "The Baron" to add strength bonus for minions, but Flame Golems cant use strength bonus.

One other thing you could add regarding NEC vs. ELE is that NEC is better suited for pure (5x) Chaos and Stone Golem builds.

I can't find any info about skill tree/ascendancy/gear swap for me and golems if i'm going to play Elementalist. Could you help me please?
And also,as i understand Necro got more survivability, and Ele got more DMG?

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tomatopotato написал:

One other thing you could add regarding NEC vs. ELE is that NEC is better suited for pure (5x) Chaos and Stone Golem builds.

Hey again :)

Added the line to Nec vs Ele comparison. Thanks for addition!

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I can't find any info about skill tree/ascendancy/gear swap for me and golems if i'm going to play Elementalist. Could you help me please?
And also,as i understand Necro got more survivability, and Ele got more DMG?

Hi!

Items and skill tree are identical between Necromancer and Elementalist. Bone Offering gives minions high block chance in tougher battles. The Elemental resistance node for skill-tree is needed for Animate Guardian to cap elemental resitances, and all nodes leading to it give minion damage or regen.

Necromancer has more survivability and almost equal damage to Elementalist as Necromancer gets many minion damage nodes from Ascendancy. Necromancer is bit easier to customize as it can use many different minions and offerings depending on playstyle.

Elementalist is better for farming real late-game content as Golems are immune to most bosses. Golems can do bit more damage that Necromancers if going some mix between differenct golems like 4+2, 4+1+1, etc. Threads like

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5mqmcq/10_primordial_harmony_6_golem_damage_comparison/

are useful if you are interested, but testing is hard as GGG doens't give us minion tooltip damage.

Elementalist is not optimal for leveling with minion tree as other minions are bit weaker and Elementalist cant use Offerings for extra defense. I always recommend leveling as Necromancer and later switch to Elementalist when you can run full amount of Golems if you want to.



UPDATE

About 99% of total work is done.

Done:
- Animate Guardian updated to use dual curse
- New final passive tree
- Rewrite guide to be shorter and clearer to stay under 50k characters
- Adding more budget item options to massively lower cost for endgame
- Converting guide from Chaos inoculation to life / Energy Shield hybrid
- Relink all items to make sure no old / lost items remain
- Rewrite leveling guide
- Added warning not to use Animate Guardian at low level
- Added default Pantheons

Doing:
- Finalizing guide, cleaning stuff and adding missing bits

I never played with animate armor so excuse the maybe dumb question but why is it not wise to use it at lower levels and at certain bosses?
What is the downside of using it at lower levels? Or is it more like it cost a lot to cast and it dies to quick or something?

or should it have some buff and stats from items before it gets good enough? I know that in the end you use it for the second curse but at lower levels is it doing any damage or is it useless?

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Krekel82 написал:

I never played with animate armor so excuse the maybe dumb question but why is it not wise to use it at lower levels and at certain bosses?
What is the downside of using it at lower levels? Or is it more like it cost a lot to cast and it dies to quick or something?

or should it have some buff and stats from items before it gets good enough? I know that in the end you use it for the second curse but at lower levels is it doing any damage or is it useless?

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When the animated guardian dies, you lose all the items you used on it. I think that should explain why you don't want to use it at low levels :)

Wow, I did not read that part haha, good for saying that, maybe something that could be added to the part where the items are mentioned for the animate guardian.

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Krekel82 написал:

I never played with animate armor so excuse the maybe dumb question but why is it not wise to use it at lower levels and at certain bosses?
What is the downside of using it at lower levels? Or is it more like it cost a lot to cast and it dies to quick or something?

or should it have some buff and stats from items before it gets good enough? I know that in the end you use it for the second curse but at lower levels is it doing any damage or is it useless?

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When the animated guardian dies, you lose all the items you used on it. I think that should explain why you don't want to use it at low levels :)

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Wow, I did not read that part haha, good for saying that, maybe something that could be added to the part where the items are mentioned for the animate guardian.

Well said :)

When Animate Guardian dies, you lose all its gear. The gear is not worth that much, but its a pain to buy new batch of items. You want Animate Guardian to have beefy hitpoints and then strengthen it with fortify / empower and minion life.

Only about 1/4 of hits connect to Animate Guardian and it heals very fast, but it must have health buffer to not die in 2-3 consecutive hits in boss fights.

On certain bosses Animate Guardian is at disadvantage as you can't get as much regen on it as with Golems, as it doesn't benefit from "Primordial Harmonies". Mainly Vaal Temple bosses with crazy high chaos degen can melt it, and Uber Atziri may be able to one shot it with double Flame Blast. At level 27 Animate Guardian can even tank Shaper, so they are the only bosses not to use Animate Guardian ever if not feeling very adventurous.

I'll add the line to Animate Guardian gearing part, nice notice :)