235 Fusing vs. 6S Atziri's Disfavour Axe

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ClickHitBoom написал:

If you don't care about it being linked (or have a chest that isn't linked yet), then use the vorici socket trick...

Is that something special or just using his workbench?

GGG should implement an option where you select, "spam until returned 5L, or 6L". save the mouse from all the clicking, and or missing a 5L.

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GHoSe написал:

GGG should implement an option where you select, "spam until returned 5L, or 6L". save the mouse from all the clicking, and or missing a 5L.

Vorici does one-click 5L and 6L guaranteed!

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GHoSe написал:

GGG should implement an option where you select, "spam until returned 5L, or 6L". save the mouse from all the clicking, and or missing a 5L.

They could implement a slider, like when you break apart a stack. How many x do you want to use? Scroll the slider to 500. Bam, will apply the orb till the item is maxed (max sockets, max links).

3500+ cant 6L

just unlucky

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evilhart написал:

3500+ cant 6L

just unlucky

Moasie did one stream where he went like 3800. That's the worse I've seen. Im telling you people, it's retarded to self link. Just buy the fuses when you get like 6ex and use Vorici. Even if you hit the statistical average every time, you'd save ~300 fuses a pop. That's not even an ex right now in SCL. And for what? To save an exalt? What is that? Like 3 hours of gaming?

Yeah but... the mating call of the homeless or idiot.

If you can bypass RNG in this game, you do it. Only shmucks try to beat the house.

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_Tiem написал:

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evilhart написал:

3500+ cant 6L

just unlucky

Moasie did one stream where he went like 3800. That's the worse I've seen. Im telling you people, it's retarded to self link. Just buy the fuses when you get like 6ex and use Vorici. Even if you hit the statistical average every time, you'd save ~300 fuses a pop. That's not even an ex right now in SCL. And for what? To save an exalt? What is that? Like 3 hours of gaming?

Yeah but... the mating call of the homeless or idiot.

If you can bypass RNG in this game, you do it. Only shmucks try to beat the house.

I will have to respectfully disagree on that one. The vorici recipe is noticeably more expensive than the expected average. This means, if you are consistently using it, you're losing resources in the long run. On the other hand, if you only self-link, you will have some bad luck streaks, but you'll have lucky 6-links too to compensate. In the long run, you're going to be better off. Trying to beat the house is indeed stupid, but the house always has the odds stacked in its favor. This is not the case with Vorici vs. self-link.

That being said, buying your six-links is typically the most cost-effective approach. The prices of six-links in a well-saturated market (about 2 weeks into a new league) are typically slightly lower than 1200 fusings + the cost of the chest itself. They usually go around 1000 fusings + chest price. And, best of all, there's no risk involved for the gambling averse folks out there.

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_Tiem написал:

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StDrakeX написал:

Chromes are based on Attributes and not what defences are on the item...

Attributes reflect the base type. ipso facto.

Even your example of Geofri's Sanctuary is wrong, it's 90 strength and 105 intelligence so it's going to prioritise the blues over the reds. The gap in knowledge is astonishing sometimes...or do you think cause the armour has a roll of 457-524 has priority when chroming cause the energy shield rolls 278-339??? Cause it's a bigger number?

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_Tiem написал:

Honestly, you're bad at this game if you don't use Vorici's table.

Hilarious since the calculator would tell you what to enter, hint it's item attributes not defences....

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Bars написал:

I will have to respectfully disagree on that one. The vorici recipe is noticeably more expensive than the expected average. This means, if you are consistently using it, you're losing resources in the long run. On the other hand, if you only self-link, you will have some bad luck streaks, but you'll have lucky 6-links too to compensate. In the long run, you're going to be better off. Trying to beat the house is indeed stupid, but the house always has the odds stacked in its favor. This is not the case with Vorici vs. self-link.

That being said, buying your six-links is typically the most cost-effective approach. The prices of six-links in a well-saturated market (about 2 weeks into a new league) are typically slightly lower than 1200 fusings + the cost of the chest itself. They usually go around 1000 fusings + chest price. And, best of all, there's no risk involved for the gambling averse folks out there.

It's not, you're just bad at this game. The average has been stated and discerned by Chris and lots of players, respectively. ~1200 is the number. Chris has said it falls a bit under Vorici.

So what you're doing if you self link is:

20 fuses: 6L
500 fuses: 6L
1100 fuses: 6L
250 fuses: 6L
4200 fuses: 6L

Since you need a 6L every league, that means statistically, you'll likely go an entire one without one. Or break yourself trying to get it. Only to save in other leagues, which who cares. If you budget 6ex every league and use Vorici, you'll know exactly what to expect. No rollercoaster rides. Yeah, you'll be out an exalt every league, but if that's important to you, then you're playing this game wrong.

As for buying your 6L, you likely don't care about the rolls. Because godly rolled 6L are more expensive than if you bought the item and used Vorici... or about the same. So yeah, you're bad at this game.

I mean you're actually defending gambling and that it's the better way to go lol. I can see things like reliquary keys. Ok, for 70c, you could get a 500ex chest. Or a 5ex flask. Sure. I think it's dumb too, but I can see it because the rewards are there. But for 6L? So the odds always win. And if you 6L on the first fuse, you've won that fight, but since it's never ending (you don't stop at one 6L), you know it'll catch up with you. That's the crazy part. People think they'll forever 6L on 300 fuses... like what even. That's why people who manually link are bad. Like I said, the numbers are there. Now if the average to 6L was half, then it'd be worth it. But for 300 fuses... naw. Check trade, it's like 330 fuses for an exalt now. Nothing. Like I said, I had enough for Vorici in about a week of playing. I had the fuses before I even hit Vorici level 7. And I suck at trade and clear like a slug compared to most people.

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_Tiem написал:

That's why people who manually link are bad.

Hilarious