[3.0] WanderFinder Under 1ex Guardians/Shaper no problem.

Remember this is a pre 3.0 not up to date guide(dude quit)

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Is there a reason the build gets blood drinker life node over golem's blood? Going golem's blood over blood drinker, you get within proximity for a 4th jewel slot which is a huge DPS boost + another 7% life jewel. Wayyyy better than getting the leech esp if you're already in proximity of vitality void.


You go for Blood Drinker mostly for the leech combined with health, PERSONALLY i don't go for the duelist leech/area so yeah.

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Also, Why did the OP get tempest blast in the wand tree, that's a total waste of a passive point, right? I look in POB and if you don't go the 'wand damage' route and get wand accuracy and attack speed instead to get the crit chance/multi nodes for the wand, you actually end up with MORE dps. I'm sure that has to be a mistake on the OP's part, because it literally makes 0 sense as to why you'd do that.


Tempest Blast is wasted with Piscator, but you also don't need accuracy, you can path counter-clockwise there and stop before Tempest Blast, any Wand build will take the Crit chance/multi nodes no matter if they pick the Damage or ASPD/Acc route.

Going eva/dodge/acrobatics is an option, i didn't and i can facetank all guardians just fine with HP + flask mitigation as you can see in the videos, i'd say the 'Core' of the tree is around 90~ points, you can customize the rest to your liking, and you should!

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Also, I have noticed that when I am fighting bosses and I click on them at point blank to cast barrage, I end up missing barrage because the aim is misaligned.


I do notice the barrage spraying, usually getting closer to the boss fixes it, gotta literally be inside the boss, not sure if there's anything else we can do.

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Another question, I'm really debating on whether I should get vinktars. How much does the self-shock completely screw you over in boss fights or do you simply not cast vinktars in boss fights? I feel like taking 50% more damage from hits is too much risk, and I prefer to run atziri's promise instead.


You're immune to Vinktar's shock effect through Pathfinder ailment's immunity, Vinktar's is not only used for the damage but the LEECH and +max lightning, we are reflect immune during Vinktar's effect with Yugul pantheon, without Vinktar you'll one shot yourself to reflect, you can even run elemental reflect maps. If you touch anything with Vinktar's up you'll instantly leech full health.

Wise Oak will give 22/23% Penetration, Vinktar will give 15% penetration + reflect immunity + 84% max lightning res and insane leech. + to attacks is the best version but it costs around 5ex and is not needed.

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I was am currently using slower projectiles as the 6th link in my build, but I am thinking of switching it with added cold instead. Having slower projectiles is more damage, but it is so frustrating to have the boss move and completely side-step an entire barrage because of the speed reduction.


Indeed it can be quite frustrating, personally i replaced my slower projs for damage on full life, it's the highest dps possible on a 6th link, but other gems will work just fine.
Последняя редакция: Phosphenez#5438. Время: 28 сент. 2017 г., 06:14:47
Hey ironstove here.

For some reason my phone logs me in as a different account.

So regarding tempest blast, what what meant to say is that going counter clockwise results in you having more damage than going clockwise, even with the tempest blast node excluded.

Try it in pob. Spec out of wand damage and go for wand accuracy and attack speed. The attack speed actually scales your dps higher than wand damage.

There is literally no reason for speccing clockwise on the wand circle from a what I found.

Going ccw, you get more damage and you save a passive point. Probably one of t biggest flaws I found w this build.

You're right about vinktars. I forgot you are immune to shock. The leech seals the deal for me. I am going to to switch my atizi for a vinktars with lightning dmg to attack since I have the extra currency available

I based on pob this is the most effective flask to switch. Diamond is insane damage and so is dying sun. Basalt needs to be part of the build and adrenaline too.

However since atziris gives leech I serious question if the switch is worthwhile. Obviously 2% vs 20% w vinktars is apples and oranges but the charge cost makes a hesitate as to well. I'll have to do some testing and see. I feel like it's almost lateral in effectiveness since chaos res is so low. Will report back w my findings
The aspd gives a little bit more and save a point yeah, i spec this way because thats when i tend to swap to wands and i'm lacking damage more than attack speed, also sometimes aspd too high will result on you having no mana to attack for a bit, just need to find a balance, haven't bothered respeccing it, my tree is pretty much done at 94 i think, if pushing for 100 probably would grab +2 jewel sockets.

I use basalt for safe-mapping and facetank stuff like Minotaur, for hydra/phoenix i tend to swap basalt for Atziri's Promise or Wise Oak for some extra damage.

Without Vinktar you'll probably die to elemental reflect rares, while with Vinktar you should be able to run even elemental reflect maps, i'm still using the 10% pen one, gives me around 160k~ with my setup, while a really good +attacks vinktar gives 260k~, but it costs 4-5ex while penetration is 30c~, and it gives the +maxres and overleech to not die to reflect.

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Phosphenez написал:
The aspd gives a little bit more and save a point yeah, i spec this way because thats when i tend to swap to wands and i'm lacking damage more than attack speed, also sometimes aspd too high will result on you having no mana to attack for a bit, just need to find a balance, haven't bothered respeccing it, my tree is pretty much done at 94 i think, if pushing for 100 probably would grab +2 jewel sockets.

I use basalt for safe-mapping and facetank stuff like Minotaur, for hydra/phoenix i tend to swap basalt for Atziri's Promise or Wise Oak for some extra damage.

Without Vinktar you'll probably die to elemental reflect rares, while with Vinktar you should be able to run even elemental reflect maps, i'm still using the 10% pen one, gives me around 160k~ with my setup, while a really good +attacks vinktar gives 260k~, but it costs 4-5ex while penetration is 30c~, and it gives the +maxres and overleech to not die to reflect.



IDK, I haven't had issues running out of mana so far and I have been stacking IAS on my wander. The faster you attack, the less of a pause interval there is between barrage volleys so you leech back sooner. It really helps with survivability.

I'm level 89 atm and have ~3.7k life, which seems low but I'm doing all maps fine outside of some nutso mods because I have ~50% evasion, 50% dodge, and 40% spell dodge which works as nice mitigation. I was able to do shaper fine with this setup.

Once I get to 92, I'll get the points for wandslinger, which will raise my DPS to 2.4m, once the gems are upgraded to 20/20, I should be at around 2.8m.

I will say this right now, I started this build because I was enticed by the whole idea of a 'budget' wander, but I don't think such a thing exists. You can probably make a budget wander for mapping, but to try to make a 'budget' wander to do bosses is just not realistic. You're going to have to spend at least 4-5 exalts to get the gear necessary to get a wander running comfortably because I think wanders need their damage to reach a minimum threshold for things to start working well. This was definitely a fun learning experience making my first wander, but so much for my ideas of having a wander as a league starter XD

I can see a class like inquisitor, assassin, raider, or occultist being viable as league starter, but def not pathfinder
Последняя редакция: ironstove#2303. Время: 30 сент. 2017 г., 17:28:38
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Phosphenez написал:

I switched to wand around level 65~, i would recommend leveling as elemental bow with wake of destruction boots, thief's torment ring, storm's cloud/the tempest bow and prismweave belt, should give you enough damage and sustain to get through acts on a 4/5 link.

I'd probably do something like this for leveling tree:

27p : https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAD0ACTIBABubjQgu7YMZjgBe0359df66u-PEou967g5W-nfX459noId2Sn1_KzB8jX0j9k2S_W6xfMPmjbkAAAAAAA==

46p : https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAGMACTIBAC6bjQgu7YMZjgBe0359df66u-PEou967g5W-nfX459noId2Sn1_KzB8jX0j9k2S_W6xfMPmjbmXBhmKwzokiw-rbWw2PZ2qbIxirBa_JpVh4lVLjDaJ03BSKgtd8gAAAAAA

62p : https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAIMACTIBAD6bjQgu7YMZjgBe0359df66u-PEou967g5W-nfX459noId2Sn1_KzB8jX0j9k2S_W6xfMPmjbmXBhmKwzokiw-rbWw2PZ2qbIxirBa_JpVh4lVLjDaJ03BSKgtd8pu1hMUF-ZsmelNh68963UZjpxGBDkgRlgcelS7w1UlRAAAAAAA=

Can use the static electricity jewel early on, should help as well, it's mostly focused on HP and stats early on as you'll lack stats and hp from gear, if you lack damage then grab more damage on tree, point blank is HUGE damage if you can manage to dps from close range, critical multiplier/chance is not needed until late game, jewels are usually expensive so more of a late game as well, start grabbing the top wand nodes when you're planning on transitioning to wand.


Im on act 10, almost on the end.
I will start mapping, any advice? is my first time doing maps.
Im feeling a bit squishy right now when i kill kitava i dont know :( atm i have my resist over 100%
My life on kill is very low i dont understand i cant regen life withowt life flask
i feel my dps is ok right now to start maps.

any change on guear advice?

Последняя редакция: Fino89#2169. Время: 1 окт. 2017 г., 13:26:51
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Minotaur facetank on -max res and +lightning damage map : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knKKK1Tzre8

DPS feels alright, gonna be sketchy on something like +hp/+res map, does great for a cheap version of wander though, if you got currency to burn you can certainly double/triple that damage easily.

Total investment on this toon is around 200c.


on yout boots u have blue-blue-blue-red sockets what are the gems?

This build is absolutely ............. trash.

For my own experience, I got it to level 81, I figured I don't have enough dps, the dps seems pretty low. I don't know how the author beat shaper with it, I've been having a lot of troulbe just dealing with regular T8!-T10 bosses. And I checked path of build, i have same dps as the author, which he actually beat shaper with. And total life seems pretty low as well, i just kept dying.

I figured i can try to upgrade the dps, so I bought dying sun and vinktar as suggested in upgrade video and path of build.

Then I found out most of these things are nerfed in 3.0..... moreover, now that the flask setup don't have a life flask, I just keep burning myself alive with my own blood rage. GG, if remove other flasks either reducing bunch of dmg, or removing movement speed................

So in my try..... I have to say this is a big fail, use it at your own discretion.
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aMoveFTWoOo написал:
This build is absolutely ............. trash.

For my own experience, I got it to level 81, I figured I don't have enough dps, the dps seems pretty low. I don't know how the author beat shaper with it, I've been having a lot of troulbe just dealing with regular T8!-T10 bosses. And I checked path of build, i have same dps as the author, which he actually beat shaper with. And total life seems pretty low as well, i just kept dying.

I figured i can try to upgrade the dps, so I bought dying sun and vinktar as suggested in upgrade video and path of build.

Then I found out most of these things are nerfed in 3.0..... moreover, now that the flask setup don't have a life flask, I just keep burning myself alive with my own blood rage. GG, if remove other flasks either reducing bunch of dmg, or removing movement speed................

So in my try..... I have to say this is a big fail, use it at your own discretion.


I found i had the same problem so I made some adjustments to the tree. I ended up getting acrobatics and phase acrobatics and the ability to tank w the build is much better. I also adjusted some of the nodes for more damage.
Hi. I don't seem to be able to deal with most of the bosses above Tier 11. May I know what seem to be the problem?
yeah 1 ex lololololo

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