[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]
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CheeQu написал:
OP please check my character, I did every step as pointed by my cyclone is missing, come packs stays unaffacted, I have 14% recovery belt and 14%as cospri
"Je sens que je suis libre,
mais je sais que je ne le suis pas”
―Emil Mihai Cioran
Can someone take a look at my items/tree/jewels to help me improve the build even more.
- I am sitting on 3.73 aps (20 CDR belt), will try to get it to 3.74 when i manage to get some new jewels (ias+life+multi instead of 2xias + life).
- Also i am using separate ring for Aspect of the Spider because it gives me more life then Mark of the Elder and the damage is about the same (eventually i want Warlords + Aspect on same ring)
- My gems need lvl 21 on ice nova but its a big investment at this point
Before i was trying with Haste and Watchers Eye with onslaught to reach 7+ aps but this seems like its higher dmg wise and much tankier.The only downside is that it is slower in clearing because we have less attack speed and slower movement skills.
As i mentioned earlier im comin from another coc build.Now im almost completely transformed my char to yours.Did the guardians, and shaper too.Not a problem at all.I died sometimes, once with shaper, 2 with phoenix (dunno why but his adds somehow slowing my attackspeed or my cyclone speed down and im almost a sitting duck) and once with mino.These were totally my fault, im not that good still with the skill (cyclone) itself.Im goin with 2 shaper ring, and these mods:life/mana gained for each enemy hit by your spells.These are really good stuffs, im rarely run out of mana, and help with life sustain too.Its not crazy good but helps.Still have to get the amulet and im g2g against uelder too.Nice build, thx for OP. !
Still having a ton of fun with this build man!
Been upgrading my gear a bit here and there plus my Winter Orb character, doing lots of things at once so slow progress lol.
But always in the search for best builds to get into next league and so on.
Anyway can you take a quick look at my gear maybe?
Im thinking on getting eighter Loreweave 6link next around 5exalts.. or the amulet.
Still in yellow maps and I feel sometimes mana might run out.. like 1\10th of the time.. so wondering if I should be prepeared to get a manacost reduction ring or mana gained on hit ring?
Resists were a pain in the aassss to get on the same level to have max buffs from the Wise Oak.
Still thinking if to use Dread Banner (I just always forget to use it lol, kinda hate the mechanic) or now maybe Stone Golem.. or even maybe Decoy totem.. although decoy seems so useless unless its something big.. but havent met anyone.. BIG yet, everything dies in 1-2 shots.
I do feel that I don´t proc quite as often as id like to.. my hideout crit is 33.4% atm. APS is 3.7 and using jewels\passives to get APS just right and not having to use onslaught flask.
I bought jewels to get DEX requirements right plus some resists to get Wise Oak stuff going on instead of getting it mostly from gear right now or passive nodes.
Bought Fingerless gloves and added +1lvl to socketed AoE gems.. should be good?
Oh and most importantly.. I added PHASE RUN.. as I really love it.. and I felt that speed was lackluster. Although I still feel phase run feels a bit slow without efficacy. But just lost faster casting for flame dash for Phase Run.. so imo a decent choice.
And what would be a good RARE chest armour mod?
Had small life on it (24).. but thinking 120ES regen per second might be better, will try that out.. but also have crit chance mods that I can add to it!
Again, mega build. Love it!
Some more tips for leveling that I was thinking:
As an Assassin you can also buy Onslaught early on. Add that to Flame Dash until you can buy Faster Casting in ACT II.
Early on buy Fire Trap for early bosses, bosses melt with it.
Can add Bear Trap aswell for further increased deeps and nice slow effect.
Also at 28 you can buy Lightning Spire Trap! So buy that for very nice damage boost for bosses!! You can add Increased Critical Damage, Lightning Penetration and Trap and Mine Support to it.
Hey there! Glad you are still enjoying it!
If you're deciding between loreweave and amulet, loreweave will be a match bigger upgrade. It's way more important than the amulet.
About mana, check on the "important notes & gameplay tips" section where I state lots of things that can help.
I keep dread banner mostly for the reduced accuracy aura, i rarely place it myself. It's a nice bonus for 10% mana reservation - if your mana can handle it of course.
You are indeed not proccing as often, the reason is you got your APS to 3.7 but unfortunately that's the attack speed needed provided you have 14% increased cooldown recovery! Without one, the optimal APS is actually just 3! So feel free to remove coordination node and change jewels - or get a belt with at least 14% cooldown recovery! Also that crit chance will improve with loreweave.
+1 AoE gems isn't that great since vortex wont deal much damage anyway - better switch that for a +28 life hybrid craftable mod!
I wouldnt bother too much with a rare chest, unless it's one beast of a chest. Loreweave is just too good for this build, it has everything.
Uhuhh... so you are sayin.. the way I have played this all the time.. has been wrong.. what do I now 0.1 shot mobs? LOL.. wtf :D
How did I get this wrong hmm.. anyway 3.7 I need when I have CDR on belt or boots right? 14%+ although I guess just 14% is enough. 7+7 Belt\boots works too right?
So POB tells me this is my aps should i bring this slightly lower than 7.57 aps?
Since you are targeting 7.57 and not 6.06, I'll assume you have 14% cooldown recovery belt.
To get the most out of CoC with Cyclone 3.75 APS will be enough. Since you are too high from that, if you don't want to lower it that much you can go for double that, so about 7.5. That will result in same amount of procs, though with an avoidable and not needed investment in attack speed.
Still having a ton of fun with this build man!
Been upgrading my gear a bit here and there plus my Winter Orb character, doing lots of things at once so slow progress lol.
But always in the search for best builds to get into next league and so on.
Anyway can you take a quick look at my gear maybe?
Im thinking on getting eighter Loreweave 6link next around 5exalts.. or the amulet.
Still in yellow maps and I feel sometimes mana might run out.. like 1\10th of the time.. so wondering if I should be prepeared to get a manacost reduction ring or mana gained on hit ring?
Resists were a pain in the aassss to get on the same level to have max buffs from the Wise Oak.
Still thinking if to use Dread Banner (I just always forget to use it lol, kinda hate the mechanic) or now maybe Stone Golem.. or even maybe Decoy totem.. although decoy seems so useless unless its something big.. but havent met anyone.. BIG yet, everything dies in 1-2 shots.
I do feel that I don´t proc quite as often as id like to.. my hideout crit is 33.4% atm. APS is 3.7 and using jewels\passives to get APS just right and not having to use onslaught flask.
I bought jewels to get DEX requirements right plus some resists to get Wise Oak stuff going on instead of getting it mostly from gear right now or passive nodes.
Bought Fingerless gloves and added +1lvl to socketed AoE gems.. should be good?
Oh and most importantly.. I added PHASE RUN.. as I really love it.. and I felt that speed was lackluster. Although I still feel phase run feels a bit slow without efficacy. But just lost faster casting for flame dash for Phase Run.. so imo a decent choice.
And what would be a good RARE chest armour mod?
Had small life on it (24).. but thinking 120ES regen per second might be better, will try that out.. but also have crit chance mods that I can add to it!
Again, mega build. Love it!
Some more tips for leveling that I was thinking:
As an Assassin you can also buy Onslaught early on. Add that to Flame Dash until you can buy Faster Casting in ACT II.
Early on buy Fire Trap for early bosses, bosses melt with it.
Can add Bear Trap aswell for further increased deeps and nice slow effect.
Also at 28 you can buy Lightning Spire Trap! So buy that for very nice damage boost for bosses!! You can add Increased Critical Damage, Lightning Penetration and Trap and Mine Support to it.
Hey there! Glad you are still enjoying it!
If you're deciding between loreweave and amulet, loreweave will be a match bigger upgrade. It's way more important than the amulet.
About mana, check on the "important notes & gameplay tips" section where I state lots of things that can help.
I keep dread banner mostly for the reduced accuracy aura, i rarely place it myself. It's a nice bonus for 10% mana reservation - if your mana can handle it of course.
You are indeed not proccing as often, the reason is you got your APS to 3.7 but unfortunately that's the attack speed needed provided you have 14% increased cooldown recovery! Without one, the optimal APS is actually just 3! So feel free to remove coordination node and change jewels - or get a belt with at least 14% cooldown recovery! Also that crit chance will improve with loreweave.
+1 AoE gems isn't that great since vortex wont deal much damage anyway - better switch that for a +28 life hybrid craftable mod!
I wouldnt bother too much with a rare chest, unless it's one beast of a chest. Loreweave is just too good for this build, it has everything.
Uhuhh... so you are sayin.. the way I have played this all the time.. has been wrong.. what do I now 0.1 shot mobs? LOL.. wtf :D
How did I get this wrong hmm.. anyway 3.7 I need when I have CDR on belt or boots right? 14%+ although I guess just 14% is enough. 7+7 Belt\boots works too right?
:D you should some difference in single target!
Ye just 14 is perfect and anything more has 0 benefit for coc. You can get 7+7 but that takes 2 mod slots from your rares instead of 1. 14% belt should be easy to find, though they can get a bit expensive if you also go for good life rolls and some resists.
Just to make sure without 14%+ belt your attack speed can ether be slightly less than 3APS or 6APS? but with belt it can be slightly less than 3.75APS or 7.5APS? There is no damaged change between 3APS and 6APS but the leech does increase is this correct[besides having faster clear speed]?
Just to make sure without 14%+ belt your attack speed can ether be slightly less than 3APS or 6APS? but with belt it can be slightly less than 3.75APS or 7.5APS? There is no damaged change between 3APS and 6APS but the leech does increase is this correct[besides having faster clear speed]?
Yes those attack speeds are correct. Leech should also be almost the same, just slightly more since cospri's 2 gems will benefit from that attack speed and will both proc 6 times/sec, while in my version they proc 3 times/sec each. Main CoC procs are the same though.
Clearspeed will only improve if you use leap slam or shield charge. I prefer using high movement speed instead of movement skills since it's smoother and faster for cyclone so it wouldnt improve my clearspeed at all.
Not sure what to say, been playing since Beta, a lot of characters and a lot of leagues. May be the single best feeling all around build I have ever tried. You don't get the boring aspect of a really strong Life based RF, but you feel just as safe while watching stuff die in an instant. Well done sir!
should i bring this slightly lower than 7.57 aps?
