[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

Looks like there are two schools of thought on this build. Move toward the 8 node life wheel or go to Phase acrobatics.

Any thoughts on what is better and why?

I get the thought process to having a bunch of life, currently sitting at a little over 6k. Looks like going Phase Acrobatics would net me some more crit chance as well.

I am currently using the mid grade gear for the build and getting close to level 90. Just heading into level 5-10 tier maps and looking for a bit of advice on what direction to head.

Thanks!

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Azdingo написал:

For the watcher's eye using Zealotry, which mod is the most important one? Penetrate 10% or Linger? Or I should get both...?

At this point, I don't know what to upgrade as I have pretty good gear:

The penetration. You attack so fast that the linger is useless, as you are going to proc the ground effect constantly.

Get a 6% health, and if you can, 10% penetration Watchers Eye if you go this route for more deeps. The penetration is effectively a *more* multiplier so its worth getting a 10% if you can afford (they go for 70c to 1 ex).

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ratmeister написал:

Looks like there are two schools of thought on this build. Move toward the 8 node life wheel or go to Phase acrobatics.

Any thoughts on what is better and why?

I get the thought process to having a bunch of life, currently sitting at a little over 6k. Looks like going Phase Acrobatics would net me some more crit chance as well.

I am currently using the mid grade gear for the build and getting close to level 90. Just heading into level 5-10 tier maps and looking for a bit of advice on what direction to head.

Thanks!

It more depends if you use discipline and the watchers eye for discipline, since going acrobatics halves your ES and hurts that 'buffer' substantially. If you go acrobatics you stick with Zealotry for the most part. You do more max deeps and have better ability to avoid one shots but worse sustain.

Discipline route has much better sustain since it can refill its shields, but (despite extra EHP) is more susceptible to one shots (since the extra EHP is not really all that much, and you have fewer chances of negating the attack out right).

Both have a benefit and a cost.

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skrecu написал:

this is 2nd league when I use this build
In betrayal I hit endgame (uber, delve 450+, syndicate t16 etc) with basic gear, this is my std char
http://poe-profile.info/profile/skrecu/BezkarnieObrazamNarut
any issues noticed
Recently I do the same, with this character, with even better gear
http://poe-profile.info/profile/skrecu/StaszegWiesNaDziwki
, and I experience serious issues with hitting with cyclone, sometimes I need 5 sec wading through packs to hit for the 1st time and prc CoC or frostbolt
Can You explain that??I know I need come lvl up and 4th ascension, but this can not explain everything

Your Cyclone crit chance is to low. Get a lvl 20/20 crit gem and take the Power Charge node called Infused and the Annihilation nodes instead of Doom Cast, it will help a lot on the overall crit rate.

did i miss something or why we dont take the 2 spellcrit cluster or atleast 1 @the endgame?

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Dkodr написал:

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skrecu написал:

this is 2nd league when I use this build
In betrayal I hit endgame (uber, delve 450+, syndicate t16 etc) with basic gear, this is my std char
http://poe-profile.info/profile/skrecu/BezkarnieObrazamNarut
any issues noticed
Recently I do the same, with this character, with even better gear
http://poe-profile.info/profile/skrecu/StaszegWiesNaDziwki
, and I experience serious issues with hitting with cyclone, sometimes I need 5 sec wading through packs to hit for the 1st time and prc CoC or frostbolt
Can You explain that??I know I need come lvl up and 4th ascension, but this can not explain everything

Your Cyclone crit chance is to low. Get a lvl 20/20 crit gem and take the Power Charge node called Infused and the Annihilation nodes instead of Doom Cast, it will help a lot on the overall crit rate.

The annihilation nodes are spell crit chance only, which won't help proc CoC anymore than normal since its based off the crit of cyclone (not a spell). For the same reason, you want to avoid doom cast. This is not helping you proc CoC any more than normal, though the multiplier is nice, not worth taking the nodes.

How to boost your crit chance:

Not having ambush and assassinate (your last ascendancy) is huge, especially when clearing. +100% crit chance means you wade into packs chain critting.

Other thoughts: when your crit gem hits 20/20 that is 108% increased chance, but more importantly, 1.9% to the base (which gets multiplied by everything). That is huge--however, the biggest thing is maybe you are not hitting your diamond flask enough? I pop this every pack, when i start on the boss, every 6 seconds effectively this is being hit. Diamond flask is the biggest boost to your crit chance, taking even a 75% crit chance and making it effectively over 97%.

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faytte написал:

The annihilation nodes are spell crit chance only, which won't help proc CoC anymore than normal since its based off the crit of cyclone (not a spell). For the same reason, you want to avoid doom cast. This is not helping you proc CoC any more than normal, though the multiplier is nice, not worth taking the nodes.

Those nodes in combo with the Power Charge is what yields the highest Ice Nova damage output combined with a boost to Cyclones crit chance.
According to PoB. That is what I am interested in. Not sure what your game is about.

Best option would be to take a jewel slot if he had a really good jewel though.

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Dkodr написал:

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faytte написал:

The annihilation nodes are spell crit chance only, which won't help proc CoC anymore than normal since its based off the crit of cyclone (not a spell). For the same reason, you want to avoid doom cast. This is not helping you proc CoC any more than normal, though the multiplier is nice, not worth taking the nodes.

Those nodes in combo with the Power Charge is what yields the highest Ice Nova damage output combined with a boost to Cyclones crit chance.
According to PoB. That is what I am interested in. Not sure what your game is about.

Best option would be to take a jewel slot if he had a really good jewel though.

But those nodes don't boost the crit rate of Cyclone. All of their crit chance and crit multiplier are to spells (which cyclone is not).

The poster said he was having trouble getting CoC to proc when he was cycloning through a pack, so those nodes arn't going to help get his Cyclone crit rate up.

Also I do not know about your PoB, but with a crit flask up (which should always be up) I'm already between 96-97% effective crit chance depending on what gear setup I'm using, and most of the annhilation tree only gives crit chance--it should not effect your damage all that much (where Crit Multiplier will, but Annihilation only gives you +15% crit multi with spells. Not much for 3 pts). Would rather have those 3 points anywhere else I think. Since your set up seems pretty different from the norm though maybe it helps a lot.

There is no point in repeating yourself, it just makes it look even more awkward. We are talking about OP's build, not yours. When I give a sound advice you can't just go and negate it, then say the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlwPrkspGZw

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Dkodr написал:

There is no point in repeating yourself, it just makes it look even more awkward. We are talking about OP's build, not yours. When I give a sound advice you can't just go and negate it, then say the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlwPrkspGZw

I was also talking about the op's build, and trying to correlate his complaint with what you said. It bared repeating cause Annihilation nodes didn't target the issue he was talking about (CoC not triggering enough). Not sure why ego had to come into a dialog, but clearly you are taking this personally. Edit: Questioning is not an attempt to negate or put down, but illuminate and understand, often to the betterment of the side doing the questioning.

Nice uber kill!