[3.6] Eternity Shroud Winter Orb Trickster (the best one)

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rlauren2 написал:
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Rootsy40 написал:
Hi exiles and thx for that detailed build.
I've been playing poe since Betrayal league start, and i still have so much to learn! that's why I need your help guys cause there's something i really dont get...
How is it possible to get wands as stephenp1983 has posted?
There's only 1 mod "gain % of elemental damage as extra chaos damage".
multimod craft on that item won't end in a rare item, just a magic one where you cant add crafted mod, right?
So in the worst case you will have to regal it to be able to multicraft it, still right?
How it works oO? I think it might be annulement orbs trick?
can we have a rare item with only 1 mod just using annulement orb?


You have to ALT spam it until it rolls the % chaos, then if it has two blue mods you have to annul 1 of them then regal and if that one is also undesirable you have to annul again then multicraft.


This is correct, but I'll expand a bit since you mentioned you're new. Some of this might be review:

1) Make sure that you are using a Shaper wand/scepter/dagger that is item level 85 or higher or it won't work.
2) Alteration spam until you either roll "Gain +% elemental damage as extra chaos" OR a very useful suffix with no prefix. If you roll a single awesome suffix, use an orb of augmentation to add a prefix to it, praying for the gain ele as chaos.
3) If you happened to roll your item into one with the "gain ele as chaos" as the sole mod, regal it and annul it, hoping that it doesn't remove the desired mod. If you remove the garbage mod, multimod and you're done. If you remove the extra chaos mod, scour, transmute, start over.
4) If you happened to roll your item into a two mod magic with "gain ele as chaos" and a random suffix, you should regal first and then use 2 annulment orbs rather than annul, regal, annul again! Leaving the single desired mod when using 2x annulment on a 3-mod item is a one in three chance. Getting lucky on an annulment orb twice with 2x mods each time is a one in four chance. The same applies if you happened to luck in to a lucky suffix along with your desired prefix. Regal first, then try to annul off the garbage mod.

Annulement orb's pretty expensive but..... It works! thx again
One question: for people getting currency to the expensive items (wands, chest...), how is the building

I suppose is no need to coldtofire and pyre before you start to get the chaos items, so 6L with cold penetration? Hatred+ HoF for the auras?
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xonsuns написал:
One question: for people getting currency to the expensive items (wands, chest...), how is the building

I suppose is no need to coldtofire and pyre before you start to get the chaos items, so 6L with cold penetration? Hatred+ HoF for the auras?


I added a short section with some gear suggestions for league starting. Basically, yes you're correct. Don't worry about the conversion stuff until you get the extra chaos items to abuse it.
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rlauren2 написал:
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xonsuns написал:
One question: for people getting currency to the expensive items (wands, chest...), how is the building

I suppose is no need to coldtofire and pyre before you start to get the chaos items, so 6L with cold penetration? Hatred+ HoF for the auras?


I added a short section with some gear suggestions for league starting. Basically, yes you're correct. Don't worry about the conversion stuff until you get the extra chaos items to abuse it.


thanks, very helpful! Right now prices are way too high (devouring diadem 4ex, eternity shroud 25ex 3-linked,... and its good to have a general guide for the build before the gozu items
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xonsuns написал:
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rlauren2 написал:
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xonsuns написал:
One question: for people getting currency to the expensive items (wands, chest...), how is the building

I suppose is no need to coldtofire and pyre before you start to get the chaos items, so 6L with cold penetration? Hatred+ HoF for the auras?


I added a short section with some gear suggestions for league starting. Basically, yes you're correct. Don't worry about the conversion stuff until you get the extra chaos items to abuse it.


thanks, very helpful! Right now prices are way too high (devouring diadem 4ex, eternity shroud 25ex 3-linked,... and its good to have a general guide for the build before the gozu items


Yes, unfortunately this is both a supply and demand problem. Both of those items only drop from very late-game bosses (mastermind, uber elder), so they will be expensive early no matter what. Even a normally trash item with low demand like Beltimber (10c in Synthesis) is 2 exalt in flashback simply due to lack of supply. Additionally, a full ~40% of all flashback players are playing Winter Orb, an insane stat in its own right. Devouring Diadem and Eternity Shroud are core pieces for the build the largest plurality of players are playing, so demand is massive. Massive demand plus zero supply = exorbitant prices.

If your build is ahead of the pack and can farm end-game bosses, now's the time :)
When rolling the weapons is 20 ele dmg as chaos the only option? Cold or fire dmg as extra chaos is no good? thx
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LemmiwinksGerbil написал:
When rolling the weapons is 20 ele dmg as chaos the only option? Cold or fire dmg as extra chaos is no good? thx


Gain (16-20)% elemental damage as extra chaos damage is the mandatory mod. You get to double dip due to the conversion, so having a roll of 20 here adds 20% of your pre-converted cold damage, then it adds another 20% of your post-converted fire damage. The "gain % cold damage as extra chaos damage" mod, on the other hand, only rolls 11-13 as the top tier. Since it also doesn't double dip, it's only about 1/3 to 1/4 as powerful as the elemental mod.

It's possible to get them both, but they're also both prefixes, so you will never get them both by alt spamming. You might happen into the cold as extra chaos mod when you regal, though. I would have to plug it in to PoB with appropriate gear to see if it actually beats out other mods like crit multi or added flat cold. My instinct is that it would be worse than the mods we craft, though.

You definitely should be on the lookout for other suffixes when alt spamming the weapons though. Cast speed and crit multi can both roll as natural suffixes with higher ranges than you can get while crafting, so getting a magic wand/scepter with 20% ele as extra chaos and 25% cast speed/38% crit multi would be the dream.
Последняя редакция: rlauren2. Время: 15 мая 2019 г., 20:41:46
So I wasnt going to go shroud...
But the RNG gods had my back today.
I had a stack of scours so i decided if i hit the pyre chance id go ahead and do it.
Hit the pyre in under 1k scours. "Well damn, i guess im going shroud now"
Grabbed a sceptre base and decided to try to hit a good cast speed or multi and it happened.
Then the crafting that followed.. OMG.. This is how they crafted, no divines were used at all.
Quickly spent the rest of my currency making multi modded shaper gear to make this happen.



Kind of unsure how to swap out my Vaal Righteous Fire. It was very useful up to t16 just to get a bit more dps for boss kills, but its dps is completely outshadowed by my other skills now. I use orb of storms in my weapon because it has has good +shaped skills for it and want to keep it. The other 4 link is for auras so I have 1 4link left. I wonder what I should replace VRF with.
Последняя редакция: heishe. Время: 18 мая 2019 г., 9:34:08
Can someone tell me why everyone for this spec gets Arcane Surge? With EB it doesn't proc? Thx.

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