[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

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JiminiJ написал:

Hey guys, picked up the game this league, this is my 2nd character ever, so i'm still stuck in noobland :-)

That said, i am loving this build, thanks for all the info and continuing support to the community. Currently on T12 maps, build is holding up well so far.

1- Noob question: is there any issue with putting the cyclone/VD in chest rather than staff (obviously I don't have a CwC staff yet)? Doesn't seem to me, but I saw a comment in passing somewhere that made me doubt.

2- When I compare my PoB to others, my calculated damage for VD is completely abysmal (44k vs 760k), but not sure what I'm missing that would explain such a difference...

3- I just sniped a decent Watcher's Eye for relatively cheap, but now I'm kinda stuck on my progression: what next for my gear/setup? I just unlocked the final Lab so I'll be running that asap, but gear-wise, I'd love direction on what to try to go for next... Probably better survivability (chaos resist, life, es), but what do you think would provide the best upgrade?

Edit: linked gear.

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/RiH9mdL6

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JiminiJ написал:

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JiminiJ написал:

Hey guys, picked up the game this league, this is my 2nd character ever, so i'm still stuck in noobland :-)

That said, i am loving this build, thanks for all the info and continuing support to the community. Currently on T12 maps, build is holding up well so far.

1- Noob question: is there any issue with putting the cyclone/VD in chest rather than staff (obviously I don't have a CwC staff yet)? Doesn't seem to me, but I saw a comment in passing somewhere that made me doubt.

2- When I compare my PoB to others, my calculated damage for VD is completely abysmal (44k vs 760k), but not sure what I'm missing that would explain such a difference...

3- I just sniped a decent Watcher's Eye for relatively cheap, but now I'm kinda stuck on my progression: what next for my gear/setup? I just unlocked the final Lab so I'll be running that asap, but gear-wise, I'd love direction on what to try to go for next... Probably better survivability (chaos resist, life, es), but what do you think would provide the best upgrade?

Edit: linked gear.

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/RiH9mdL6

Hello, just bringing my question up the queue. Ran the last lab yesterday, looking for guidance on gear direction.
1- What would be the most effective use of a few ex for better survivability?
2- My PoB is showing an abysmally low dmg, is it real? I mean i have most of the main stats, gems and buffs etc, not min/maxed obviously, but I can't see what would explain a 15x difference...

Thanks!
J

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vikdean написал:

I've found something interesting, so I tough I share it.

I like to experiment with the minor details of the build, so I went end checked what other people are using on poe.ninja.

The major things are the same as in Gryphenprey's build, but there are some differences, which might make the build a little bit better.

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?sort=dps&dps=Volatile-Dead

The most noticeable difference for me is the use of a lvl 7 Desecrate gem; the use of the Inspiration Support and maybe the amount of Curses they are using.

I would recommend checking a couple; you might find something interesting.
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/%EB%82%98%EB%B6%80%EC%A7%80/%EB%82%98%EB%8F%84%EB%A7%9D?i=0&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Ahako/Ahakoo?i=1&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Black_Fantom/BlackFRedd?i=2&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/markmarkov/PornSwordSugarComa?i=3&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead

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My point was that PoB's calculation is probably incorrect. Also, I didnt really understand what you've been trying to say; is Spell Cascade in a 1-to-1 comparison better then CD or Aw. Fire Pen, or not?

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JiminiJ написал:

About the flasks: I can't both replace a magic flask with a dps unique flask, AND add curse/bleed immunity in... I see you went the offensive route, do you address bleeds/curses/poison/freeze elsewhere?

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Gryphenprey написал:

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vikdean написал:

I've found something interesting, so I tough I share it.

I like to experiment with the minor details of the build, so I went end checked what other people are using on poe.ninja.

The major things are the same as in Gryphenprey's build, but there are some differences, which might make the build a little bit better.

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?sort=dps&dps=Volatile-Dead

The most noticeable difference for me is the use of a lvl 7 Desecrate gem; the use of the Inspiration Support and maybe the amount of Curses they are using.

I would recommend checking a couple; you might find something interesting.
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/%EB%82%98%EB%B6%80%EC%A7%80/%EB%82%98%EB%8F%84%EB%A7%9D?i=0&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Ahako/Ahakoo?i=1&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Black_Fantom/BlackFRedd?i=2&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/markmarkov/PornSwordSugarComa?i=3&search=sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DVolatile-Dead

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My point was that PoB's calculation is probably incorrect. Also, I didnt really understand what you've been trying to say; is Spell Cascade in a 1-to-1 comparison better then CD or Aw. Fire Pen, or not?

Inspiration Support is what I used last league. They nerfed the gem and buffed monster resists making Awakened Fire much more appealing and more damage. Would not use Inspiration anymore.

In a 1-for-1 comparison of between Spell Cascade or Not Spell Cascade, Spell Cascade has a higher DPS ceiling. it will be more damage provided you can produce enough corpses to support it. I don't think giving up a 4L is worth the extra DPS and lag that comes with it. That is, and has always been, my stance on the gem.

Also on a side note, desecrate level 7 is the limit for CWDT level 1. I was literally too lazy to level it past 1. That's the only reason it's level 1. lol

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I never noticed a difference in clear speed and I like having the extra 3-4L setup. These sockets can be used for more utility with things like Culling Strike, PCOC, Curse(s), Golems, etc.

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WrongBlight написал:

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I never noticed a difference in clear speed and I like having the extra 3-4L setup. These sockets can be used for more utility with things like Culling Strike, PCOC, Curse(s), Golems, etc.

That oppurtunity cost can be debated for normal spell cascade, but i'll be totally impossible to beat awakened one with any utilities you can fit in that slot, at potential max of 15 VD and easily 12+ otherwise.

And it's way better after explosions fix now.