[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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c3mpoe написал:
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BeerLeague написал:
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c3mpoe написал:
Is there any tree for Icicle Mine?


Wouldnt recommend atm, it takes a huge investment to feel good.


So its any mine skill but actually just two? Gc and bl? I don't like them :C


I mean, you can play it, the suggested links are in the guide. I put pobs together for the strongest skills each league. Icicle is pretty low in terms of power level right now.

You are welcome to play it, but it needs a crap ton of investment to feel good.

Links are - icicle, trap and mine, swift assembly, pierce, woke added cold, woke cold pen.
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BeerLeague написал:

Nope, that’s probably correct. The weighting on t1 spell damage is super low though, that wand would be much rather than a +1/+1 wand with crafted spell damage/ chaos mod.


Yeah, but by so much? It's not even about the implicit, I'm getting something like this, if I remove my current wand, and craft a new convoking (for no implicit) wand with just one mod:

T1 spell% - +18.2% damage
T2 spell% - +16.4% damage
T1 flat - +12.9% damage
T3 spell% - +12.4% damage
T2 flat - +11.0% damage
+1 spell gems - +9.4% damage
+1 lightning gems - +9.2% damage

I haven't gone below T2 flat and T3 spell% but maybe 1-2 more tiers are still above +gems. I don't know, this feels extremely wrong to me, but I can't understand why/how this is happening. At this point it seems that even if I don't search for T1 spell%, even something like 40% implicit, T4 spell% and T2 flat are better than a clean +2 wand, and this sounds absurd to me, especially considering that I'm using two lightning auras and a shitton of aura effectiveness on tree.

P.S. Here's a convenient PoB prepared in case you are willing to check it for yourself: https://pastebin.com/4bc0fhcT

//edit 2: My current wand is this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762669994562945034/3.png

This is something I found on trade just now, and PoB shows me +3% damage with it over my current one: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762670060523225108/2.png

This one gives more than +10%: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762677569807319040/gadfgfda.png
Последняя редакция: LaplaceNoMa. Время: 5 окт. 2020 г., 10:13:16
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BeerLeague написал:

Nope, that’s probably correct. The weighting on t1 spell damage is super low though, that wand would be much rather than a +1/+1 wand with crafted spell damage/ chaos mod.


Yeah, but by so much? It's not even about the implicit, I'm getting something like this, if I remove my current wand, and craft a new convoking (for no implicit) wand with just one mod:

T1 spell% - +18.2% damage
T2 spell% - +16.4% damage
T1 flat - +12.9% damage
T3 spell% - +12.4% damage
T2 flat - +11.0% damage
+1 spell gems - +9.4% damage
+1 lightning gems - +9.2% damage

I haven't gone below T2 flat and T3 spell% but maybe 1-2 more tiers are still above +gems. I don't know, this feels extremely wrong to me, but I can't understand why/how this is happening. At this point it seems that even if I don't search for T1 spell%, even something like 40% implicit, T4 spell% and T2 flat are better than a clean +2 wand, and this sounds absurd to me, especially considering that I'm using two lightning auras and a shitton of aura effectiveness on tree.

P.S. Here's a convenient PoB prepared in case you are willing to check it for yourself: https://pastebin.com/4bc0fhcT

//edit 2: My current wand is this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762669994562945034/3.png

This is something I found on trade just now, and PoB shows me +3% damage with it over my current one: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762670060523225108/2.png

This one gives more than +10%: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519792025273630749/762677569807319040/gadfgfda.png


So it’s all gear dependent, for each person it’s going to be different depending on what they have in other slots and what they are using.

One thing you are missing though is counting the implicit. You should be using that when you look at damage and should include it in all calculations.

%spell damage is really strong though, it’s why mark or the shaper is so good.

If you want to get the best of best as far as wands go, it doesn’t have +1 light or spells on it at all, it’s just way cheaper to go that route.

Best wand is temple mod (lighting damage + lightning to spells), t1 flat and t1 spell damage. Good luck getting that though.
Hi thanks for sharing your guide tips.

I`m using your guide and other to adjust my build, and doing some personal tweaks, I`m playing currently with Glacial Cascade Mine, let me share the tests that I post in other topic as well:

#1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AGSN3UFKQA&ab_channel=SkInS

#2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOkOPCM0ThA&ab_channel=SkInS


Hey! I'm doing BL miner and i need an advice to imporve DPS. I have 1/4 avg dps comparing to beerLeague main BL tree and dont know what to improve first.
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Hey! I'm doing BL miner and i need an advice to imporve DPS. I have 1/4 avg dps comparing to beerLeague main BL tree and dont know what to improve first.


Boot enchant can add quite a bit. After that looks like you are chasing a helm enchant, good corruptions and 21 gems.
Are ball lightning alternative quality 2 (Projectiles have chance to be Supercharged) is good?
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c3mpoe написал:
Are ball lightning alternative quality 2 (Projectiles have chance to be Supercharged) is good?


Only good if you can get a 21/20 one. Otherwise not worth it.
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BeerLeague написал:
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c3mpoe написал:
Are ball lightning alternative quality 2 (Projectiles have chance to be Supercharged) is good?


Only good if you can get a 21/20 one. Otherwise not worth it.


Better than 21/20 normal BL?
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BeerLeague написал:
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c3mpoe написал:
Are ball lightning alternative quality 2 (Projectiles have chance to be Supercharged) is good?


Only good if you can get a 21/20 one. Otherwise not worth it.


Eh. If bl can't shotgun, so i think normal projectile will overlap supercharged one :c

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