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BoondockSaint написал:
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yastru написал:
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BoondockSaint написал:
i have stopped playing for many reasons, mainly map drops, but crafting is up there, probably second on list
i am one of the people that used around 1000 fusings for 6L, didnt get it, and countless orbs of chance to get anything usefull,i've chanced all imperial bows, glorious plates, ocultist vestments, all maps that can turn to unique, karui mauls, and many others, again no luck, and i have played atleast 300 maps - mara lvl 76, CI witch lvl 85, ranger lvl 86
and i dont mind that, i was just unlucky, i can take that RNG is RNG bullshit
what i cant stand is, after all those attempts, is knowing that for all that currency i could have bought all the gear i need
so, imo when you want to craft something, if you fail, you should not feel stupid cause you failed
and then there is that light radius shit and stat reduce req.....this is one big FU to all of us that love crafting and not buying our gear
Conclusion : this game is not gonna be fixed for quite some time, and only way i see myself playing again is league where there will be no trading, SELF found league, a league where you wont feel stupid about yourself when you use your hard found currency
its not game`s problem that you are stupid.
i mean, you knew about rng and crafting before you even started to craft. you can get it at first, or you can get 6l at 6000th fusing. you decided to risk it, and now.. GGG sucks because i am dumb ?
if you lost all your money on slots in casino, would you require casino to "fix them" ? its probably their fault you lost it all.
yes, you could have bought things that you needed for that amount of orbs. you decided to go for a gamble. it didnt pay off. joke is on you.
What pulled me into this game was talent tree and crafting possibilities.....
I wanted to find a prismatic ring ilvl 75+, then alter it for thousand times if i have to, and farm all those alter, np, then when i get high spell dmg + cast speed for my witch, then regal that ring, get something useful, then exalt it 3 times if new mods are good enough for me
Now this is fun for me, create my own gear, cause we all know it would take years and years to get your own gear from drops
Unfortunately, GGG is doing their best to kill crafting in this game
Alternative to this is buying gear
and how do you think other people that you will buy that gear from got it ? it falled from the sky, i dont think so. they either got it from drops or crafted them, which means it works for someone, it just doesnt work for u.
and you can do all those things you say you want to, alt items then regal them then exalt them. what seems to be the problem ? how is ggg killing crafting ?
A stranger like no otherther,
Faced the wall of the Umbra,
@Yastro
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Сообщениеyastru#36259 мая 2013 г., 12:02:34
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torturo написал:
Yastru ,it is all about balance.None wants the easiest way of achievement.None wants 1fuse=6L system.Just a balance,which is a main target of every A/RPG.Not gambling.Balance.Crafting system in PoE is a fail and they didn't even try to change it in a positive way.
is is balanced. yesterday i started to craft one high ilvl chest, in about 50 fuses i got 2x5l. i was going for 6l so i continued, and after 150-200 fuses, i still didnt got it. but you know what, im ok with that. 6l is a endgame thing. it is supposed to be rarest of the bunch.
like going for royal flush on poker, you wont see it much, but when it happens, it means something.
what do you want ? you whine about this system and speak about balance whithout even saying what would be your "perfect" system.
lol, you are trying so hard
so tell me, you said i am stupid cause i tried to get 6L, and now you say you trying to do the same, does that mean you are stupid too?
also your poker remark, i can see you pro poker player...... ./sarcasm
a lot of items comes from black market, bots and mulitboxers....you wouldnt belive the amount of people that buy orbs on RMT sites
as i said, i have played hundreds of maps, hunderds of hours, i have found only 2 exalt orbs
so yea, i cant craft
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BoondockSaint написал:
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yastru написал:
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torturo написал:
Yastru ,it is all about balance.None wants the easiest way of achievement.None wants 1fuse=6L system.Just a balance,which is a main target of every A/RPG.Not gambling.Balance.Crafting system in PoE is a fail and they didn't even try to change it in a positive way.
is is balanced. yesterday i started to craft one high ilvl chest, in about 50 fuses i got 2x5l. i was going for 6l so i continued, and after 150-200 fuses, i still didnt got it. but you know what, im ok with that. 6l is a endgame thing. it is supposed to be rarest of the bunch.
like going for royal flush on poker, you wont see it much, but when it happens, it means something.
what do you want ? you whine about this system and speak about balance whithout even saying what would be your "perfect" system.
lol, you are trying so hard
so tell me, you said i am stupid cause i tried to get 6L, and now you say you trying to do the same, does that mean you are stupid too?
also your poker remark, i can see you pro poker player...... ./sarcasm
a lot of items comes from black market, bots and mulitboxers....you wouldnt belive the amount of people that buy orbs on RMT sites
as i said, i have played hundreds of maps, hunderds of hours, i have found only 2 exalt orbs
so yea, i cant craft
no, it means i am willing to gamble to get it and not cry afterwards if i dont.
you were stupid for whining afterwards and blaming the process when it was you who willingly used it knowing that its not guaranteed to get you anything.
lets see for example, you are gunning for 6l lioneye as your endgame weapon. how much is that lioneye ? lets say 24 exalts. maybe more, but wel say its 24.
u need 6l lioneye, u have option to buy it straight for that much or pay like 4 exalts to get it unlinked and it leaves u with 20 exalts.
turn that 20 exalts in fuses and we have.. like, 1400 fuses more or less.
so, if you get 6l in those 1400 fuses, which is a good possibility, you made a profit. if not, you lost.
you lost, and then cried afterwards how system is broke. i bet you wouldnt cry if you hit jackpot and got that 6 links in first 10-20 tries, would u ?
A stranger like no otherther,
Faced the wall of the Umbra,
@Yastro Последняя редакция: yastru#3625. Время: 9 мая 2013 г., 12:40:24
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Сообщениеyastru#36259 мая 2013 г., 12:33:09
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also, u maybe found only 2 straight exalt drops, but how many rares you have found ? especialy if you are running with good iir.
those rares turned into alts turned into jewelers turned into fuses then sold to exalts give u much more exalts then 2. at least they do to me.
if u are not picking up and vendoring those rares and only concentrate on straight currency drop, you are doing it wrong.
also, if u are poor and have only 2 exalts, you were even dumber to think youre entitled to get your best of the line top endgame weapon for only 2 exalts or fuse equivalent. your sense of entitlement is off the hook.
you could play this game easily with 5l, which i said, is not so hard to get except in extreme cases which are exception to the rule.
if your build requires 6l to be functional, again, you are doing it wrong.
A stranger like no otherther,
Faced the wall of the Umbra,
@Yastro Последняя редакция: yastru#3625. Время: 9 мая 2013 г., 12:47:04
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Сообщениеyastru#36259 мая 2013 г., 12:43:19
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crafting is not 6L lionseye, by crafting i mean all items, and apart from lioneye, kaom and few others there is no way it is more effective to craft then to buy from other people
people burn few hundreds fusings to get 4L helms or gloves, while they could buy 4L item that is 10 times better then what they want to fuse
thats what i dont like in game where crafting should be before trading imo, cause crafting is fun trading is not
i have quit the game, and in my stash i have around 30 exalteds, combined on hc and sc, 2 exalteds were from drops, all other from trading, i am not person that wants easy loot, and for sure as hell i wont pay multiboxer, boter, or someone who bought orbs from RMT sites, item that i want
so your sugestion is to turn all my orbs into exalteds.....ask your frineds how many exalteds did they find, or how many did you find?
i have 30+ and found only 2.....so yes, those exalteds didnt drop from sky, they came from multiboxers and bots, and thats the reason you can see people who bot have stacks of mirrors and exalteds
i ll wait for selffound league where people will be able to enyoy crafting, where there will be no bots and multiboxers, if there will be any, if not, there will be other games
also i am done arguing with a guy whose posts ends with "you are doing it wrong"
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BoondockSaint написал:
crafting is not 6L lionseye, by crafting i mean all items, and apart from lioneye, kaom and few others there is no way it is more effective to craft then to buy from other people
people burn few hundreds fusings to get 4L helms or gloves, while they could buy 4L item that is 10 times better then what they want to fuse
thats what i dont like in game where crafting should be before trading imo, cause crafting is fun trading is not
i have quit the game, and in my stash i have around 30 exalteds, combined on hc and sc, 2 exalteds were from drops, all other from trading, i am not person that wants easy loot, and for sure as hell i wont pay multiboxer, boter, or someone who bought orbs from RMT sites, item that i want
so your sugestion is to turn all my orbs into exalteds.....ask your frineds how many exalteds did they find, or how many did you find?
i have 30+ and found only 2.....so yes, those exalteds didnt drop from sky, they came from multiboxers and bots, and thats the reason you can see people who bot have stacks of mirrors and exalteds
i ll wait for selffound league where people will be able to enyoy crafting, where there will be no bots and multiboxers, if there will be any, if not, there will be other games
also i am done arguing with a guy whose posts ends with "you are doing it wrong"
thats because you know im right.
also, people burn that much fusings on top gloves, boots, helms. i crafted a hell of a lot of gloves boots & helms though and it never required that much fuses. i dont doubt there are extreme cases, but il find you extreme case where they get it from first, so it balances out. if you are on the wrong end of rng, i know it can feel bad but for each of u there is someone out there smiling happily cause he got it from first.
i love the current crafting system, even if rng doesnt favours me much.
crafting is fun, trading is not ? good thing u said "imo" cause i and i am sure a lot of other people find our enjoyment from both.
you can flat out disregard one or the other, and still be efficient, just not like people who use both because the game is balanced out with both in mind.
A stranger like no otherther,
Faced the wall of the Umbra,
@Yastro
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Сообщениеyastru#36259 мая 2013 г., 13:09:53
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JoannaDark написал:
Sounds like the exact reason i took a break from this game.
Double edged sword. If you use your currency for what it was meant for (crafting) , you end up playing a crap shoot and loosing your socks with nothing to show for it. If you use the currency for buy / trade power, well than, wtf is the fun in that , you cant craft at all.
POE boasted such a killer crafting system, and IMO, its a bullshit attempt. Each to their own, as there is definitely people that like it.
Kinda like the unlimited build posibility promoted with the passive tree... ya - heard that story before.
It is sadly how they retain players by making things unachievable because of the RNG
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СообщениеWalrusky#03719 мая 2013 г., 13:49:05
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Count me in the loosers club. 850 jewellers and no 6 soc =(
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СообщениеPvNKruger#24069 мая 2013 г., 16:30:48
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ntherblast написал:
It is sadly how they retain players by making things unachievable because of the RNG
unachievable?
I 6S each of these with less than 50 Jewelers each time.
Didn't seem that unachievable to me. Linking them well.. that's a whole other story.
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Сообщениеualac#01629 мая 2013 г., 19:14:52
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Got mine in the range of 50-60.
Thread killer.
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