Does anyone else think/feel that 3.18xpac (Archnemesis mods)+league might be a big (shadow) NERF?

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Bosscannon написал:
Roots of poe is small game for fringe audience. Sure they can go back to that :)


Well yeah, might be. If I recall correctly they kind of started as an INDIE game. So the roots of this game might not exactly be viable nowadays.
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benjaminbona написал:
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Bosscannon написал:
You mean archnemesis mods. Some of them completely shut down builds. If they introduce them back untoned down to manageable levels its going to be a total crapfest.



There's ZERO chance GGG is that stupid right?

There's no way they would implement the mods in the same state they were in Arch Nem

If they do many players will quit the already tiniest expansion in years and they will see the worst retention ever

Which they may or may not give a shit about

Who knows, they refused to show us the info in the patch notes for a reason

They tell us the mods are changing but they don't tell us the specifics

They are either STILL working on them or don't wanna say because it will cause a riot


GGG knows whats too powerful or not, we cant tell them otherwise...
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FamousWarrior написал:
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benjaminbona написал:
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Bosscannon написал:
You mean archnemesis mods. Some of them completely shut down builds. If they introduce them back untoned down to manageable levels its going to be a total crapfest.



There's ZERO chance GGG is that stupid right?

There's no way they would implement the mods in the same state they were in Arch Nem

If they do many players will quit the already tiniest expansion in years and they will see the worst retention ever

Which they may or may not give a shit about

Who knows, they refused to show us the info in the patch notes for a reason

They tell us the mods are changing but they don't tell us the specifics

They are either STILL working on them or don't wanna say because it will cause a riot


GGG knows whats too powerful or not, we cant tell them otherwise...



That's actually a big question. Don't wanna be rude but players know the game much better than GGG... Especially streamers and die-hard players.

I can almost bet (and maybe I will be wrong) if two players are seated right next to each other, their DEV and a serious streamer, whoever that might be or a player that knows the game well in general, the DEV is gonna lose, not only by progress but by knowledge too.

GGG in general, yes, they should know, but I think they don't grasp deeply enough their changes to the game since, they don't play as much as a serious player. Not to mention that different DEVS are responsible for different stuff.

So seeing a whole picture might be even harder for them.
New mute system is terrible - no trade...
Последняя редакция: y3lw0rC#4020. Время: 6 мая 2022 г., 10:21:00
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vio написал:
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y3lw0rC написал:

What is your purpose here in this thread exactly?

just to remind people where the roots of poe are,
how it has been degraded over time,
that it is hopeless trying to unspoil players that have been spoiled,
and to point to the destination of the development: poe2


PoE's roots ah ? The game was hard but manageable and simpler to get a build going... Now ? Well building needs you to get a PHD and 250+ IQ, crafting is as complex as building and the game itself is now a shitshow...
Path of Exile is a Casino for gambling addicts.
Gambling is not fun nor a game mechanic...
Последняя редакция: Azarhiel#6045. Время: 6 мая 2022 г., 11:58:44
I'm sure it will be okay.

The biggest issue in the past wasn't usually the individual mods on the rares. It was the damn Auras that turbo charged entire packs.
All of these aura mods are gone which I think will make everything far easier.

In the past, the problem wasn't turbo charged rare mobs most of the time.
It was turbo charged rare monsters that got buffed by 8 other Auras.

I'm pretty sure mods that make builds unplayable like Rejuvenating will be looked at
Will Rejuvenating even be in the Game?
I would assume only the Base mods can Roll not the recipes?
Not sure though.

Pretty sure it will not be that bad. There were deadly mod combinations on Rares before the change. Maybe with some tuning i can imagine it will even make rares easier and less deadly.

I am very excited for the new league. I think the Atlas and Endgame changes are nice.
Not sure about the league Mechanic itself though. Depends on how interesting the rewards really are.
I don't think regular map rare mobs will be sporting those ridiculous T4 archnemeis mods in combos with eachother. Some combinations of modifiers in Archnemesis league were extremely hard, but these were mostly juiced af recipes out of T3+T4 mods. You're not going to see that in regular mapping content. Not even all rare mobs will have 4 archmenesis mods lol.

This is a good change, sorting the mod mess. Currently rare enemies have a fucking drop-down list of 15 mods, but like 13 of them do nothing anyway. Proximity Shield and Soul Eater were the only ones that I cared for. Soul Eater could snowball out of control in particular.

What needs to go is reflect as a map mod. This is by far the most sucky modifier on a map. You either run a map or don't. I really don't like the idea of mods that completely exclude a character from content. I mean, no leech kinda sucks but is doable, cannot regen also, if you pair both of those it will exclude but that's rare and i don't even think this can happen. Reflect also means that this new "randomonium" keystone is useless. Gl getting thrown into reflect map at random lol.
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Bosscannon написал:
So let me get this straight - you will still play POE even if what we discussed here happens?

You need to get that checked out if yes.


Well depends on how BAD it is right

If every build except for a handful are playable

Yea I probably won't be playing the league/game till they fix it

I do except alot of threads and complaints to come about these new mods, again they haven't given us a shred of info yet
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Esubane написал:
Proximity Shield and Soul Eater were the only ones that I cared for. Soul Eater could snowball out of control in particular.

What needs to go is reflect as a map mod.


Yes, I'm very happy when I think about proximity shield going away, that is a good change but then again, new archnemesis mods will cause new problems. So we are basically going from one cancer to another.

Reflect maps are also a problem, it literally means you cannot complete a map. This gives of course a feeling of control and what you can do or can't do but in PoE reflect map is too heavy in my opinion.

I think reflect mods should disappear. It would be better if some mobs would be like resistant to DMG. Magical or physical 50% or so but reflect is bulls*it which completely shuts you down and it is sad to see when a good high tier juiced map must be sold or thrown away.

Seriously, I'd rather see some mobs resistant to certain type of dmg than full reflect map. And GOOD RIDDANCE proximity shield.

F*CK this mod!
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Последняя редакция: y3lw0rC#4020. Время: 6 мая 2022 г., 23:45:18
SO, after reading some recent posts regarding 3.18 it seems that archnemesis modifiers on mobs appear to be actually very overtuned huh?
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