Why POE2’s Direction Is Worrying for Veterans and Newcomers Alike

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GregoryAdams#7051 написал:
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Orionstar#4752 написал:
A community divided by the dodge roll. Perhaps what they can do, which they probably won’t, because it would cost too much, is to update Poe1 with the Poe2 graphics system and continue to make attractive leagues for Poe1 players.


Yeah. That would certainly help.

They really just need to come out and say what the long-term plan is here. What the worst case scenarios are, especially.

Like, let's say, 90% of people love PoE 2, and only 10% play PoE 1, what kind of support and shelf-life can PoE 1 players expect?

Or what if the opposite happens - 90% of people play PoE 2 for 2 or 3 leagues, and decide that actually, they hate it. What happens to PoE 2, then?

Because the people, who are not in it for the long haul, don't care either way. But those, who are, really want to know.


They have said this, MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES.

POE1 is here to stay, it will continue to get updates and new leagues. POE2 will do the same. They will stagger them, so POE1 and POE2 will never start a new league at the same time (so if POE1 league starts in Jan, POE2 league won't start until maybe mid Feb).
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LeFlesh#9979 написал:
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Querker#1809 написал:

People have never seen them in the main campaign . . . And there is a reason - when you meet them at a campaign -

Which one is it: they do or don't see them in the campaign?

Are you serious right now? Swap the "when" with "if", maybe that will help.
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LeFlesh#9979 написал:
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boyandroid#6548 написал:
that guy that believes there will be no leagues in PoE2.


Your reading comprehension is showing. I never made such a claim. My position on leagues is that POE2 will be better without them.


Then your position is a lost cause, because no matter what you say or no matter what you tell yourself to believe. THERE WILL BE LEAGUES whether you like it or not. This has been an INDUSTRY STANDARD for modern LIVE SERVICE like PoE1, & PoE 2 will not be any different.

So if you are still pursuing that dream, that POE2 will be better if there's none, then sorry just find another game, or just play the Standard mode if you don't want to participate in leagues.
"A game IS supposed to waste your time but it's not supposed to make you FEEL like you're wasting your time:
It's supposed to make you WANT to waste your time."
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Querker#1809 написал:

Are you serious right now?

Coherently expressing yourself also helps.
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LeFlesh#9979 написал:
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Querker#1809 написал:

Are you serious right now?

Coherently expressing yourself also helps.

This is not a counterarguement for that statement either, so we cant conclude who is closer to a truth. Please respond to what ive said about breaches, because your point of view on this SPECIFIC example of my previous "speculations" can be interesting to hear.
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Querker#1809 написал:
Please respond to what ive said about breaches

Genuinely, what are you saying about breaches? So far you've provided a contradictory statement (possibly a typo, idk) and I want to ensure the meaning of your words before giving a reply.
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LeFlesh#9979 написал:
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Querker#1809 написал:
Please respond to what ive said about breaches

Genuinely, what are you saying about breaches? So far you've provided a contradictory statement (possibly a typo, idk) and I want to ensure the meaning of your words before giving a reply.

But there is no point of repeating myself, it clearly states that introducing gimmicks in endgame is not as friendly as you might think.
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Kaukus1#7461 написал:
I’ve been playing Path of Exile since its beta days. My Steam account alone shows over 6000 hours, and with the standalone client, I’m well above 8500 hours.

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Agree in all, very precise and accurate observations about how tedious and unrewarding feels poe2 just now.


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LeFlesh#9979 написал:

Which one is it: they do or don't see them in the campaign?


Dude, could you please just open a seperate thread and laying down your hopes there? Cause this here is a very constructive thread so far and nobody, literally not a single person has doubt about the seasonal business model, not even GGG themselves as it can be read all over.

This topic here is about the longterm problems that a vastly punishing game model causes. And the feedback OP gave is reflecting and outlining the serious threats of the punishment 'vision' concerning the longlivity of PoE2.

Please start a new topic about alternative business ideas, it's off-topic in here and your one-sentence noise ist not bringing the constructive criticism to any progression.
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Querker#1809 написал:
it clearly states that introducing gimmicks in endgame is not as friendly as you might think.


'Clarity' aside, your proposal is that an entire reset is mandatory for the playerbase to acclimate to a new activity? I don't think you're giving them enough credit. I also don't think a reset is mandatory. Painpoints are to be expected in EA and I think this is just one of those cases. Characters aren't meant to have a build that excels at every single activity at once. Optimizing a build for breach necessitates weakening it in other areas. That's good design.

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