XP Penalty on Death is one of the worst things in POE1 and transcended in POE2

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ApacheVE3D#7124 написал:

All this does is make people play conservatively. They are going to avoid doing anything dangerous, challenging, or fun. That and steer everyone to broken builds.

yeah ppl will do low level tier maps for way to long without considering the roll on it then die to random busted mod and cry because they spend houres for low xp instead of running the map they suppose to run if they had a constructed build and get way better xp meaning they would reach easily level 90 wich is end game en high enough for any content. 10 skill additional point will not make you any better.

+1

Reach max level as state of playerbase - Make it like an achieve seems legit for league players or HC players. But for casual means nothing reach lvl 100.
For us what really means is enjoy our time playing the game. Even without the EXP loss will take a lot of hours playing for reaching lvl 100.
This game should make harder content or lvl requisites for be challenging. Punish players is not really a challenge. In any other games you have item lvl requisites, level requisites or scores. Here you can join into whatever you want, then you die and you lost EXP and everything.
It's a stupid mechanic and no really challenging one. If I'm dying I can't do the content, then I reespec my character. Just let me keep the EXP, gain more attibute points and still improve.

Lost Ark endgame bosses are hard to learn (boss mechanics, dps check, defensive skill should be used in few secs), but you can wipe. Make harder content and not punish the players should be the really challenge for any game.
Not just grind EXP with the same META build or pay people for rushing you the EXP. It's absurd as a goal reach lvl 100 with the EXP penalty.
All the old POE1 vets or EXP penalty who are proud of being 100 and keep insulting people who doesn't share your opinion. You're not better gamer or player just for making the safest playstyle ranged for monkey and SPAMING a broken skill each second. This is not the real challenge for a gamer.

Just give people the space for casual, and keep the olds with the EXP penalty. Will see how many players really want to play with EXP penalty. I truly think way less would play the game with EXP penalty if you could choose. It's way obvious.

Casual players should be fine with reaching 95 or so. If 100 as a base is your requirement, then you need to dedicate a lot of time and play carefully to get there. You're not a casual at that point. PoE has never been about time being the only resource needed to achieve everything.

And I say this as a casual player myself: playing PoE has never been about "completing" the game, it's been about goals I set for myself based on how much time and effort I'm willing to put into a season.

I have got to 100 once.

yeah you can't do the content at lvl 90 but lvling up will turn every one of you into a god gamer :D dudes you'll just keep dieing then what will you ask to keep nerfing the overall difficulty of the game ? nerfs nerf and more nerfs no penality just bowring meaningless grind of easy content.

No thx, please add an easy mode and forget about all this non penality nonsense. Seen this on to many games alrdy.

100%.

Why do I need to be punished across 30 different metrics for missing a single mechanic, when I have 8k EHP? All this game has made me feel about endgame is how I am not allowed to either have fun or I have to exploit bugs to be marginally consistent not suffering for turning it on.

Who actually cares about the ladder? I just want to get my other passive points and don't want to lose 2 hours of grinding when I die to some stupid bullshit omega-juiced random mob when I'm just trying to chill and grind for currency. *shrug* Shouldn't worry about what a handful of "hardcore" kids want when the majority of us just hate losing that much time when we are just trying to farm for items and chill. I'm already getting bored because I'm not going to get sweaty in ever map I run, and right now I absolutely have to because not only do I lose XP, but I lose the map and unless I super juice the map out to begin with I can't even get enough waystones to sustain farming. Literally having to pay for maps and then lose XP and the map. AT LEAST let us go back in the maps a few times because most of the times when I die it isn't even because i'm underpowered or bad but because I was literally just zoned out because I had been grinding the same shit for hours just to see if I could get a DIV drop and just completely blink at the wrong moment or misclick or the game lags and I get frozen into 7 fucking chaos orb explosions. It's bad. Only elitists and idiots think it makes the game better.

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Strangehill#1736 написал:

Casual players should be fine with reaching 95 or so. If 100 as a base is your requirement, then you need to dedicate a lot of time and play carefully to get there. You're not a casual at that point. PoE has never been about time being the only resource needed to achieve everything.

Who determined what casual players should be fine?
You don't make a full new game like PoE2 for still holding PoE players. If they want that the new game reach more public they should change old thoughs from the PoE playerbase.
It's way easy, let the players select the option and check if it's really important HOLD EXP penalty or LEAVE EXP penalty.<
If every day we are looking post of people who doesn't want EXP penalty means something. Games should adapt to reach more players or let them a mode or space. F2P needs people playing the game, the more people better for them.
Or they can just keep the PoE mechs for the PoE2 and keep stuck with the PoE playerbase. As an enterprise is not the best option.

I think at this point they really need a casual mode

Call it "Casual Mode"

Drop loot like it's a modded diablo 2

Let them skip the campaign and start at level 70

No death penalty just respawn them back exactly where they died. Hell just don't drop them below 1HP ever

See how long they stick around

If they made a mode with no xp penalty you would see how fast the server with xp penalty dies. The only people playing on it would be people competing for the ladder and the streamers. That's it. This hardcore vs casual thing is so toxic. It's gaming. It's suppose to be fun. It's a casual past time. Go get a job.

You guys sure are addicted to round numbers