XP Penalty on Death is one of the worst things in POE1 and transcended in POE2

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GDMuscles#1918 написал:

If they made a mode with no xp penalty you would see how fast the server with xp penalty dies. The only people playing on it would be people competing for the ladder and the streamers. That's it. This hardcore vs casual thing is so toxic. It's gaming. It's suppose to be fun. It's a casual past time. Go get a job.

i don't think so. I think there's still many gamer that like a challenging environement. I'm definitly for the addition of a new mode tho so we can move on from this subject. But you can't have both on the same server like some are saying "make it an option" i mean this is total bs :D

Well having both on the same server is definitely a stupid idea. I guess I personally don't see the challenge in the xp loss in the things that I have died to. maybe if it was some kind of capstone challenge losing xp would make it feel like it was a risk, but just dying on a map that is 2 levels under you because you just weren't paying enough attention or for the love of Christ a game crash taht freezes your screen while you can still hear yourself pushing buttons and you die. (This has happened to me more times than I can count now). I am just sick of it. I don't think you should lose XP unless you are specifically trying to do content that is suppose to be challenging, losing xp on silly things in regular grinds feels terrible and I just don't understand the challenge in it except "GET SWEATY AND PAY ATTENTION AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DIE EVER". That is not fun. That sucks for nearly everyone except people who ONLY play for challenges like that, which I imagine isn't nearly as many people as you think.

Again, losing xp to a big challenge where you are putting it on the line and know the risk, that does feel rewarding and good.

Losing xp when you are just farming away for items or currency or just some higher tier maps that COULD be challenging and some random juiced up mob or weird effect or lag kills you.. not good. Just makes you want to uninstall.

Basically, i just don't want to feel like every map I run is a challenge, sometimes I just want to zone out and grind.

"Bricked maps" is still very much a concept in PoE2 and reading affixes is very much a part of the game

All the have to do to make it where you can't face tank is to make the exp T15 gives more, and T16 triple that while increasing the exp needed for lvl90-100 by whatever the margin of the boost for t15/16

Death wouldn't be a huge issue then as the XP is matching the pacing along with those more and would go more into the "fair" category. How it is currently, it's in the "spit in the players face" or "disrespectful to your time" category.

Not a great recipe for having people have a positive affinity as this breed toxic mentality, because of the mental gymnastics the devs are putting you through to play a game. It's a game at the end of the day, chill out on this brutality.

How about focus on your pacing of the game rather than some teenager fantasy of brutality. Act 2-3 and Cruelty mode are jokes and it makes the difference between them and Endgame even more extreme making it seem like they put little thought or effort into the actual game. Just a bunch of systems designs without the emotions of the player even being considered.

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BigBeuss#5956 написал:

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GDMuscles#1918 написал:

If they made a mode with no xp penalty you would see how fast the server with xp penalty dies. The only people playing on it would be people competing for the ladder and the streamers. That's it. This hardcore vs casual thing is so toxic. It's gaming. It's suppose to be fun. It's a casual past time. Go get a job.

i don't think so. I think there's still many gamer that like a challenging environement. I'm definitly for the addition of a new mode tho so we can move on from this subject. But you can't have both on the same server like some are saying "make it an option" i mean this is total bs :D

Losing XP doesn’t really add challenge to the game it just makes you play slower. This isn’t a challenging game it’s just a ridiculously time consuming one that isn’t compatible with having a life outside of video games

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maquino85#7657 написал:

Losing XP doesn’t really add challenge to the game it just makes you play slower. This isn’t a challenging game it’s just a ridiculously time consuming one that isn’t compatible with having a life outside of video games

So wait, so the game's not challenging now? What exactly is it you want? A screenshot of "You Have Won"?

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Strangehill#1736 написал:

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maquino85#7657 написал:

Losing XP doesn’t really add challenge to the game it just makes you play slower. This isn’t a challenging game it’s just a ridiculously time consuming one that isn’t compatible with having a life outside of video games

So wait, so the game's not challenging now? What exactly is it you want? A screenshot of "You Have Won"?

Man, wouldn't that be something. A video game where you feel like you have won. Who would want that?

I just don't want to be playing every single map that I run in challenge mode because I know eventually my game is going to freak out or I'm going to flicker strike myself onto the bang bros casting couch and get stun locked in a t13 map and lose 10% exp on a map that wouldn't have even given me a single percent if I would have cleared it fully. *shrug* Maybe make the XP loss proportionally to the "challenge" you are referring to?

There is a whole lot of big risk with no reward in a lot of aspects of this game. If you can't agree with that then I don't know what to tell you.

There is no challenge assigned to XP loss other than working out how to not die, if getting to level 100 is your bag

If you consider that unchallenging I don't know what to say, I think it's one of the game's biggest challenges

You don't need level 100 for anything. Your last points are your worst points. You already got the most important stuff earlier, of course.

It's like complaining "I quit because I couldn't find 100% of the perfect gear in the world," okay mate sure. Maybe just take a break until next league or try a new character.

Listen, you want to destroy the value of something you don't need because you're not able to easily get it. It doesn't make any sense. You refuse to admit human nature. You would make terrible game designers.

There's a reason "level 100" is in the same challenge bracket as "run labyrinth 100 times" in PoE1, it's a top tier endgame goal not a right of passage