Dear GGG: PLS Consider SSF LOOT BUFF To Compensate TRADING...Details Below :)

Copy paste Last Epoch’s system. Trading is annoying but I’ve never considered doing SSF in POE because you just gimp yourself so hard and getting to pinnacle content is neither impossible or just takes so long I would interest… but SSF feels great in LE with the faction system.

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Balagann#7553 написал:

I play SSF and I agree/like the idea of inproving drops to compensate for lack of trade. great call.

I'd also appreciate that we drop the SOLO and leave just the Self-Found (allow party play), as discussed here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3693746

Someone will say play trade without trading, then you can party.

But then weird doing that in trade league and being wildly underoptimised if you party with someone who is trading.

I think in general people just want an option that isn't as brutal a grind as ssf, but also doesn't involve the shitty trade system. No-one wants easy, just not horribly rng and grind dependent.

I do have some wider issues with trade. A bit anyway, not super strong feelings. I mean past a certain point it is kind of cheat mode. I still want that loot feeling, still want to craft etc. I don't really get that with ssf either anymore; when you do roll something good it's a feeling of numb relief rather than elation. It's 'oh, finally I can replace that chest I managed to rng in act 2 cruel'.

To me trade should be sandbox, experiment mode. SSF should be grind, I ssf elite lol. And there should be something in between that the game is balanced around.

yep, we need ssf 2.0 badly. no migration to trade but better looot noaw GGG! ;P game has a great foundation and looks crispy. Don't let it be ruined(for some obv) by the downsides of trade...

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cid951#3156 написал:

Someone will say play trade without trading, then you can party. [...] I think in general people just want an option that isn't as brutal a grind as ssf, but also doesn't involve the shitty trade system. No-one wants easy, just not horribly rng and grind dependent.

I play in standard trade-enabled league as a self-enforced SSF, so I do have the option to party with people asking for help in example. But it is absolutely demotivating to go week after week without a single Greater Jeweller's dropping, while you keep getting your 80th Lesser. I would like to actually progress my character power a bit, but this game makes it so brutally hard to get anything, it's getting to the point of me feeling annoyed with it and not wanting to even play anymore.



I don't want to trade. Trading feels like cheating. You can farm the simplest map over and over on the lowest tier of difficulty with high increased rarity and buy the best of the best gear with the Exalts and Divines you are going to get. After that you can oneshot basically anything and you circumvented any sort of progression where you grew stronger bit by bit. I don't get a feeling of accomplishing something out of that. But man.. when the game is this bad at giving players rewards, it sure feels tempting. I just know I'd drop the game if I started trading. But then again, I may drop the game because of how terrible the loot is too.

I've gone from feeling it's fine because I was gearing up 6 characters, to feeling animosity towards the game and frustrated because now I get nothing I can use anymore as I've landed more on one character I like to play.

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AintCare#6513 написал:

NO to loot buffs in ssf

+1

The game should be balanced around SSF.

Trade league is easy mode.
SSF is not hard mode its standard.

That should be the messaging.
Drops crafting all balanced for SSF

Then in trade if you want to VISA your way to to finish go ahead.
But the core of the game is balanced.

40% of the game had 0% interest in using the market.
Im sure it is higher, if people didn't feel they were bricked without it, im sure it would be higher.

Balancing the game for buying your gear from websites means right away 40%
dont like the game.

You tell them after 5 days of unrewarding game play with nothing to show for it
that what you want to do is buy what you want.

I have abetter idea, put the loot-o-matic in the game, i buy what i want.
I can pick the base the stats everything. Insert my gold , poof done.
Its all trade league is, without the confusing crafting materials that nobody needs to use , just make it all gold, you buy everything from a loot-o-matic.
Pretty much what is is now.

Path of Amazon.

lets say 60% like the market .. they speed buy gear get a carry, high five the boss and bail.

Then there are those who try to play the game, using you know the game, crafting finding drops, using in game mechanics you know playing path of exile.

You can do pinnacle content with current drops, you don't need to trade but it will take longer. Trading makes the game MUCH easier and you reach your goals much quicker to a point where you probably will get bored very quickly unless you make tons of characters to stay motived; it's 2 different phylosophy really. If you hate slower gearing and slower progression, don't play SSF it's pretty simple because it's a game style that a lot of people like.

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chobo999#2010 написал:

Then face the same Fate as PoE1...in due time...

the same fate as poe1?

so you mean poe2 will grow its player base every year for the next 12 years, then they will release poe3 and everyone will switch over to poe3 and the player base will double again?



what are you talking about?

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Jitter912#4278 написал:

The game should be balanced around SSF.

Trade league is easy mode.
SSF is not hard mode its standard.

That should be the messaging.
Drops crafting all balanced for SSF

SSF is not standard.

It is not now, has never been, never will be.

Quit trying to twist this game into something it has never been and never will be.

You want SSF drops improved, great, I get it, I'm onboard - but you lose me the second you go off on a rant about Trade being "Easy Mode" and "SSF as Standard"

That is not the origin of PoE or the Diablo games that it's based on.

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Mordgier#6997 написал:

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Jitter912#4278 написал:

The game should be balanced around SSF.

Trade league is easy mode.
SSF is not hard mode its standard.

That should be the messaging.
Drops crafting all balanced for SSF

SSF is not standard.

It is not now, has never been, never will be.

Quit trying to twist this game into something it has never been and never will be.

You want SSF drops improved, great, I get it, I'm onboard - but you lose me the second you go off on a rant about Trade being "Easy Mode" and "SSF as Standard"

That is not the origin of PoE or the Diablo games that it's based on.

Im posting on how to make the game better.

This philosophy, this drop rate , these crafting options.
It's A tier, not AAA.

Having a buy to progress mechanic where its not even vendors.
Its a website.

I want a stat on how many players in trade are wearing gear they found or crafted. Trade is Easy Mode is not a debate man , its Amazon except you need to go to the hideout they don't deliver.

The most epic loot drops in PoE2 occur in a hideout.
Shouldn't be that way, im not alone far from it.