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+1 to OP. I enjoyed the read and agree with the sentiment.
This is POE2 and should play differently than POE1.
I genuinely hope within a year, the playerbase that continues to play Poe2 are those who share Johnathon's vision.
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Сообщениеsudhirking#447612 апр. 2025 г., 05:54:23
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People that enjoy it, actually play the game instead crying on the forums, so you wouldnt know.
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Over the last two years, I have watched Diablo 4 and other games be utterly ruined by Streamers and others who complain about any kind of challenge. I never played PoE1, because streamers said it was a slog fest, and Diablo 4 was a better, fresher game. I tried Diablo, and well.. it was fun for a bit.. then the nerfs came... and came... and came... it because nerf bukake. You can now expect about 20 hours of content per season in a game like Diablo4.
PoE2 comes a long and it seems like they wanted it to be challenging. The look in Jonathans and Marks eyes when they talk about the game... the sound of D4 ruiners tears pouring down their faces as they die over and over because they can't 1 shot everything... I was in heaven.
I played the entire EA from launch, made 40-50 chars in HC and HCSSF..and just loved it. When 0.2.0 hit it was excited.. the game felt even better.
I am now watching history repeat itself... The same mindset that ruins most games.. D4 etc is now ruining this one. Jonathon seemed like he would stand his ground... and his vision would win. However, like Blizzard.. it seems money and bottom line are more important than making a great game.
We are literally watching every aspect of the game being made easier.. over and over... everyday some stupid streamer cries or makes a youtube video about how bad they are, and the next day... it gets changed. The streamers are laughing that they got their way, and won. A certain bad player who streams and recently brought up a lot of concerns in an interview got EVERY thing he asked for in less than 24 hours... Even changing certain mobs in act 1 that have never even been noticed by anyone.
The cherry on top was cutting all of the areas in act 3 in half pretty much. Then... allowing Ascendency respecs... What happened to decisions meaning something? Giving things value... feeling like you earned something, and made you think abnout things without any consequences.
Seems those days are gone. I really hope GGG makes millions and millions of dollars off this game that used to be something special, and now is following in the footsteps of D4.
GG guys...
No rest for the wicked update coming soon.
It looks like you are one of the less then 1% players that actually like poe 2 with 0.2
Sorry, but the most players dont like the actually state and i can fully understand them. Because most of the players have thousand of hours in poe 1 or many hundreds in poe 2.
I saw people that really like how difficult it is, but mostly they played the game a few times.
Most players i knew live for poe and they want these changes. They spend so much time in this game and that for a reason.
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СообщениеSillywet#470612 апр. 2025 г., 08:03:58
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I think No Rest for the Wicked is a great example. The game had huge hype of being this Dark Souls ARPG, but it completely tanked and nobody said shit about that garbage after the day of release. Very few people want to play the slog game. Dark Souls enjoyers that think they are so good at hard games (that aren't actually hard) are the majority of people who play games. They want the next hot new game to cut out the ultra casuals that find Dark Souls hard so they can maintain their superiority complex.
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Сообщениеkabooms#378812 апр. 2025 г., 08:24:31
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Eh, Act 3 was too long so they shortened it. They didn't remove any hard parts, only the tedious ones.
Rares not being visible wasn't working, especially with how uncleared rare could cause you to backtrack when you find a wisp.
Respeccing ascendancy is fine. I don't see why it would be bad if people invest into swapping from elemental monk into chaos monk or vice versa. It just gives more options to player.
The game is much better, but they need to keep powerlevel down. Nerf lightning spear ASAP.
Unsure why some of the campaign mobs got nerfed because of one weak streamer though. I understand the game lacks difficulty selector for fairweather gamers, but the campaign wasn't particularly hard either.
Последняя редакция: AugerSpectroscopy#1884. Время: 12 апр. 2025 г., 08:46:59
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Only 30% of players are playing, they lost 70% of population. Majority hate the 0.2 and didnt even log in. Thats not success at all, and the mostly negative reviews on steam wont get them much new players at all.
Game is in pitty state. Jonathan vision failed so hard that he might not survive his position if Tencent will see the reduce in money income. So he failed really hard.
Game is not fun anymore, was great in 0.1 and now its not.
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Сообщениеdesper940#246212 апр. 2025 г., 09:13:18
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Over the last two years, I have watched Diablo 4 and other games be utterly ruined by Streamers and others who complain about any kind of challenge. I never played PoE1, because streamers said it was a slog fest, and Diablo 4 was a better, fresher game. I tried Diablo, and well.. it was fun for a bit.. then the nerfs came... and came... and came... it because nerf bukake. You can now expect about 20 hours of content per season in a game like Diablo4.
PoE2 comes a long and it seems like they wanted it to be challenging. The look in Jonathans and Marks eyes when they talk about the game... the sound of D4 ruiners tears pouring down their faces as they die over and over because they can't 1 shot everything... I was in heaven.
I played the entire EA from launch, made 40-50 chars in HC and HCSSF..and just loved it. When 0.2.0 hit it was excited.. the game felt even better.
I am now watching history repeat itself... The same mindset that ruins most games.. D4 etc is now ruining this one. Jonathon seemed like he would stand his ground... and his vision would win. However, like Blizzard.. it seems money and bottom line are more important than making a great game.
We are literally watching every aspect of the game being made easier.. over and over... everyday some stupid streamer cries or makes a youtube video about how bad they are, and the next day... it gets changed. The streamers are laughing that they got their way, and won. A certain bad player who streams and recently brought up a lot of concerns in an interview got EVERY thing he asked for in less than 24 hours... Even changing certain mobs in act 1 that have never even been noticed by anyone.
The cherry on top was cutting all of the areas in act 3 in half pretty much. Then... allowing Ascendency respecs... What happened to decisions meaning something? Giving things value... feeling like you earned something, and made you think abnout things without any consequences.
Seems those days are gone. I really hope GGG makes millions and millions of dollars off this game that used to be something special, and now is following in the footsteps of D4.
GG guys...
No rest for the wicked update coming soon.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. And I also think that it's better for us that Jonathan is in charge of running GGG since he's the one who has the guts to make poe2 a slower game than poe1.
I think all of us would be better off if Chris is no longer around. I would imagine that after facing so many complainers whining about the slower gameplay of poe2, Chris would probably backtrack and immediately make poe2 to be like poe1.
I wish that Jonathan will stand firm in his "Vision" and not to pander to the unreasonable complaints of all those whiners.
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Сообщениеstkmro#243212 апр. 2025 г., 11:42:36
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Comparing this to the Lazy Effort that is Diablo 4 is just ridiculous.
Sure the game feels a little easier at some points still....but it is far from that trivial chore.
As for balancing the game to where it is in a good spot, that will swing both ways and it is better that it happens now in EA, than after launch....so hopefully they will keep at it and get to a sweet spot.
Последняя редакция: Irres#4128. Время: 12 апр. 2025 г., 11:52:13
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СообщениеIrres#412812 апр. 2025 г., 11:51:26
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I wish that Jonathan will stand firm in his "Vision" and not to pander to the unreasonable complaints of all those whiners.
at this point i hope so too, because the harder he stands behind the "vision" the harder the garbage pile of the game will crash and burn and the faster he gets sacked so he can be replaced by someone who knows what to do ... like to not cater to 1% minority that wont pay the bills.
the longer the Johnyboy is behind the wheel the worse the damage to the brand and to the fully functional successful product of PoE1 will be...
Последняя редакция: Asghaad#3967. Время: 12 апр. 2025 г., 12:04:24
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СообщениеAsghaad#396712 апр. 2025 г., 12:03:33
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I have watched Diablo 4 and other games be utterly ruined by Streamers and others who complain about any kind of challenge.
oh, and you publicly complaining and basically doing the same thing is different.
OK LOL
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Сообщениеdrallcom3#660312 апр. 2025 г., 12:12:01
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the guy who wrote this have 0 comun sense...
They are not doing the game easier, they are fixing what are not working at all or working bad... and thats the way to follow for have a good game...
Go play D4 or No rest for the wicked, this is PoE2 my friend and have a lot of changes to do for be at least so fun like PoE 1.
Im trying to having fun with this 0.2 but i cant. So many balances problems, so many bugs, and progression system needs to improve so much more, when you reach tier 1 now its better explained but its SO REPETITIVE, not improved enough...
i finished the 15+ missions and now im tired of playing, i don have any more motivation to continue and kill Pinacle bosses because takes too long to reach this point, now the citadells... so so many maps. On PoE 1 need less maps to finish and Atlas and Pinacle, and get betters rewards.
In this endgame i felt bored and tired to finish the t15+ missions (at leats 5 or 6 maps for tier)..
and the balance for classes and skills... wow, need too much work...
But ill trust again next big content patch and try to forgett all this problems because i love the game and i hope and trust in GGG to still improving
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Сообщениеnewyork123#552212 апр. 2025 г., 12:19:42
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