Waystone sustain can still be problematic

Not sure if i'm the only one who ran into this issue. In 0.1. i had no problem with waystone sustain whatsoever because plenty dropped, bosses sometimes had 4-5. I had multiple stash tabs full of T14-16.

Now in 0.2 my troubles started when i reached T12. I lost two maps due to server issues but also was a bit careless. I bought all T10 from Doryani to craft a new T12 and died like an idiot, so got stuck in lower tiers that i couldn't level up from for inventory restock.

I then had to slowly crawl my way back from T8 i believe. For past two days i played with 3 T15 in my inventory, barely being able to sustain. At some point had to recraft two from T14. The problem is that my maps very rarely spawn extra waystones and in T15 there are often bugged maps that don't drop a waystone on the last rare or the boss. On one occasion the last rare even spawned outside of the playable area.

I have specced my atlas points into waystone quantity too. Not sure if i'm supposed to juice towers or whatever for denser content but i'm still in the process of finding corrupted and special maps to get my atlas points to 40 so min maxing juicing wasn't my focus yet.
Last bumped19 апр. 2025 г., 20:43:01
Sorry for bumping my own thread but this whole debacle is still an issue for me two days later.
I had a pool of 11 T15 maps at best in the meantime. Just ran two maps in a row again that didn't drop ANY waystone. So i'm down to 9.
I can't even think of gambling some of my precious T15 maps in hopes for T16.

Can someone who doesn't have this issue tell me where they get their waystone drops from this season?
Theres just no way

Mash the clean
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Mashgesture#2912 написал:
Theres just no way


As in you don't believe that i get no waystone drops? I don't loose many maps due to dying ( i don't even have the exalts to run many maps with no respawn), I regularely COMPLETE maps without getting any waystones. And to get two waystones in one map is maybe a 1 in 10 occasion for me. I try to get to the bottom of this. They only explanation that i can come up with is that i haven't done the fully min maxing of tower juicing yet because i still grind my char all over the map to find my last couple atlas points.
I had this issue at the start, what I do now is to always regal them to increase waystone chance and obviously clear the entire map.

I am not drowning in maps but mainly cuz i am selling anything that has enemy cast/movement speed or temporal chains or that thing that almost doubles all monster life.

I dont have many problems now cuz even if i get none in one map i still got a lot to go through and usually try to save the ones that look good for maps with many events or to corrupt for hopes of t16
https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/rjum7ks5jqfi/Ash-9143/Ash_the_vile
I was finding too much maps so I respeced out of map nodes and put the points into something else, so far there's still a lot of maps dropping.
Tech guy
genuenly how? im runing 25% char rarity, I die about once a day and lose a map (usualy a tower bc i want maxed out t15 foot that) usulay runing blue t15 or 3 mod t15 and this is my map situation and atlas tree. either your loot filter is eating them or you are runing white maps. i did one buy from doriyani, he sells white t14s made them all t15s, never had an issue since only over sustain.

to be clear you are not suposed to be able to sustain white t13+ you need some wasyton drop chance on either the waystone or the map i usualy aim for at least 30% on the waystone and never had an issue (thats 1 suffix maybe 2)


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Dez3940#4518 написал:
genuenly how? im runing 25% char rarity, I die about once a day and lose a map (usualy a tower bc i want maxed out t15 foot that) usulay runing blue t15 or 3 mod t15 and this is my map situation and atlas tree. either your loot filter is eating them or you are runing white maps. i did one buy from doriyani, he sells white t14s made them all t15s, never had an issue since only over sustain.

to be clear you are not suposed to be able to sustain white t13+ you need some wasyton drop chance on either the waystone or the map i usualy aim for at least 30% on the waystone and never had an issue (thats 1 suffix maybe 2)




its hard to see so my t15 tab
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Ash#9143 написал:
I had this issue at the start, what I do now is to always regal them to increase waystone chance and obviously clear the entire map.

I am not drowning in maps but mainly cuz i am selling anything that has enemy cast/movement speed or temporal chains or that thing that almost doubles all monster life.

I dont have many problems now cuz even if i get none in one map i still got a lot to go through and usually try to save the ones that look good for maps with many events or to corrupt for hopes of t16


I'm running my maps with 4 mods mostly (but not 6 as i don't have the exalts for this lifestyle). I've looked into every nook and cranny in the maps that don't drop waystones and there just are none.

Things get weirder tho. I just ran a series of 4 t14 maps and EACH dropped two waystones. That hasn't happend to me even once in multiple days of running T15. I don't think i even had two double waystone drops in a row.
Also the currency drop on t14 seems a bit better(?). Small sample size tho. A rare dropped two alchemy orbs. That has also never happend to me in any t15.

Whatever the formula is that GGG calculates the waystone drops with it's not working in my particular case.

For the record i have 54% rarity on my gear.
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Flowneppets#0528 написал:
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Ash#9143 написал:
I had this issue at the start, what I do now is to always regal them to increase waystone chance and obviously clear the entire map.

I am not drowning in maps but mainly cuz i am selling anything that has enemy cast/movement speed or temporal chains or that thing that almost doubles all monster life.

I dont have many problems now cuz even if i get none in one map i still got a lot to go through and usually try to save the ones that look good for maps with many events or to corrupt for hopes of t16


I'm running my maps with 4 mods mostly (but not 6 as i don't have the exalts for this lifestyle). I've looked into every nook and cranny in the maps that don't drop waystones and there just are none.

Things get weirder tho. I just ran a series of 4 t14 maps and EACH dropped two waystones. That hasn't happend to me even once in multiple days of running T15. I don't think i even had two double waystone drops in a row.
Also the currency drop on t14 seems a bit better(?). Small sample size tho. A rare dropped two alchemy orbs. That has also never happend to me in any t15.

Whatever the formula is that GGG calculates the waystone drops with it's not working in my particular case.

For the record i have 54% rarity on my gear.


i wounder if they inverted some numbers bc im runing lower rarity then most it seems and ime geting an average of about 4 exalts and pretty common other currency. hopefully this is the thing jhonathan was talking about with the rarity algo not working and it gets fixed

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