Waystone sustain can still be problematic

What the heck am I reading here. If this aint a bug, I dont know what you are doing at all.

I got in a few hours to t15 with blue waystones only kinda and since then never left t15, selling waystones even because I have way too many. I dont juice them at all since Im more or less citadel hunting atm, just casual rare maps with 3 or 4 affixes. Like every boss map drops at elast two waystones and each other map drops at least one. I only had it like 3 or 4 times that I didnt get any at all.

I even argue that it is way too easy to climb to t15 and that affix count and rarity are way too worthless at the moment. Absolutely want it back harder and more meaningful to think about it.

EDIT: NOT BUGGED, loot filter issue.

I feel like mine must be bugged. I only just recently gotten into maps as I've been playing it slow this patch so far. So I'm only on T1 maps.

Logged into my Standard League character and at the end of 0.1 launch, my map stash looked like this. No problem with sustain at all and I was throwing away lower tier maps:


On this patch 0.2.0x I have maybe failed map completely maybe once because I juiced it too much and went above my level, other than that most maps ran with 2 modifiers (blue/magic) outside of a few times I upgraded to rare for boss maps. My Atlus looks like this:



There are maybe 15 more maps not in the view of the screenshot above also finished. And most of them done in 1 shot, no deaths.

Doryani has no maps left and my map stash is completely empty. Out of all of those maps I ran, I think I only remember 1 maybe 2 total waystones dropping. I completed every map killing everything I could except one special map that had glowing particles around and a limited light radius around me and I believe I killed a boss. I walked into the darkness and it teleported me to a completely enclosed area where I couldn't finish the rest of the map, but I did get 2 Atlus points.

Surprising I was fine with everything else leading up to end game. But I'm kind of stuck now ah well. Maybe this patch isn't meant to be:

There should be a passive node on the tree which "lowers tier of dropped waystone by 1". To ensure you can also always derank your waystones.

Personally at some point I had a problem with getting actual lower tier waystones, because doryani is a dork who sells only once per level up.

I seriously dont understand why cant doryani simply sell infinite white waystones of all ranks (depending how high you have climbed).

Like, whats the intended design here ? The friction of going too high rank too fast and now not being able to actually get lower tier maps ?

I really think this is a weird system. I seriously think waystones and access to maps need to be decouple. Just allow people to access any unjuiced waystone of a level smaller than or equal to their character level. You can make the juiced versions be the ones that require to be grinded for.

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Zlei#6410 написал:

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I have no idea what you're doing, but you need to check your loot filter. Some other guy on here ran out of waystones and his loot filter was messed up. Fixed it and went back to normal.

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vexorian#9572 написал:

I really think this is a weird system. I seriously think waystones and access to maps need to be decouple. Just allow people to access any unjuiced waystone of a level smaller than or equal to their character level. You can make the juiced versions be the ones that require to be grinded for.

Actually simple and elegant solution, all nodes by default are tier0 unjuiced maps that can drop tier1 maps, simple as.

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plz#2115 написал:

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Zlei#6410 написал:

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I have no idea what you're doing, but you need to check your loot filter. Some other guy on here ran out of waystones and his loot filter was messed up. Fixed it and went back to normal.

Hmm, good point. I didn't think about my loot filter. If that is the case, this could be on me. I'll disable it, but now I put myself in the corner. I'll try to level up one time to refresh Doryani, thanks for the heads up; such a silly mistake.

Edit - This ended up being my issue. It'd be nice to have pity maps from Doryani. "Skill Issue" in an unexpected way.

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AraSkylandeR#1418 написал:

What the heck am I reading here. If this aint a bug, I dont know what you are doing at all.

I got in a few hours to t15 with blue waystones only kinda and since then never left t15, selling waystones even because I have way too many. I dont juice them at all since Im more or less citadel hunting atm, just casual rare maps with 3 or 4 affixes. Like every boss map drops at elast two waystones and each other map drops at least one. I only had it like 3 or 4 times that I didnt get any at all.

I even argue that it is way too easy to climb to t15 and that affix count and rarity are way too worthless at the moment. Absolutely want it back harder and more meaningful to think about it.

This.

I'm running almost only magic waystones and selling everyone with bad mods (even the magic ones) and I'm still get a positive balance on T15's.

I picked all "quantity of waystone" nodes on atlas tree though. All of them.

After playing a little more tonight i think my problem was indeed related to not juicing towers and maps enough while grinding for atlas points + bugs (because afaik a map is always supposed to drop at least one waystone). I ran some juiced maps + towers with 3 books, one of them with waystone quantity and suddenly my droprate feels normal. One T15 even dropped 3 waystones.

On a side node, in 90 hours i haven't seen a single cartographers strongbox. I even skilled into it on the atlas passive tree to see if that could help. But nothing, absolutely nothing.