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peerapongjen#4448 написал:
Lack of build diversify and mixing is the 4th remider.



People keep saying lack of build diversity but I wonder how many actually tried to make a build work that wasn't "meta".


I have a small guild and all of us are using are own builds and having a blast.


No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.
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No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.


You are not alone.
Build diversity is one of the many concerns people have with the direction of the game right now, there are many skill interactions that do not make sense, like requiring certain weapons in order to use seemingly unrelated skills.
But the major concern is how soul crushingly limiting it is to only have one of each support gem, though Gemling can use more.

Early days, but unless they start listening to the majority of the playerbase the future of PoE 2 is bleak indeed.
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peerapongjen#4448 написал:
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Hyperspacing#5593 написал:
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peerapongjen#4448 написал:
Lack of build diversify and mixing is the 4th remider.



People keep saying lack of build diversity but I wonder how many actually tried to make a build work that wasn't "meta".


I have a small guild and all of us are using are own builds and having a blast.


No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.



Thats a valid question. I don't know if that 1 particular thing is making it were it lacks in build diversity thought. I think, not in you particular, most people who say that statement typically are ones who haven't really tried building something of their own and if you Don't use POB (I don't) it takes a fk ton of trail and error to figure out.
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JarlaxleDaerthe#2435 написал:
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No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.


You are not alone.
Build diversity is one of the many concerns people have with the direction of the game right now, there are many skill interactions that do not make sense, like requiring certain weapons in order to use seemingly unrelated skills.
But the major concern is how soul crushingly limiting it is to only have one of each support gem, though Gemling can use more.

Early days, but unless they start listening to the majority of the playerbase the future of PoE 2 is bleak indeed.


Thanks to god you understand my problem.

Too many requirement for people who just want to have fun with their build right now. Even monsters died from lightning thorn that shock them and still cannot activate herald of thunder.


I have a small guild and all of us are using are own builds and having a blast. [/quote]

No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.[/quote]


Thats a valid question. I don't know if that 1 particular thing is making it were it lacks in build diversity thought. I think, not in you particular, most people who say that statement typically are ones who haven't really tried building something of their own and if you Don't use POB (I don't) it takes a fk ton of trail and error to figure out. [/quote]

Man even lightning thorn killing shocked monster cannot activate herald of thunder.

I alway do my own build my own play style but it always lack of way to build more.

The main point that I tried to say is there are too many limit and requirement on using support gems.
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peerapongjen#4448 написал:


I have a small guild and all of us are using are own builds and having a blast.


No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.[/quote]


Thats a valid question. I don't know if that 1 particular thing is making it were it lacks in build diversity thought. I think, not in you particular, most people who say that statement typically are ones who haven't really tried building something of their own and if you Don't use POB (I don't) it takes a fk ton of trail and error to figure out. [/quote]

Man even lightning thorn killing shocked monster cannot activate herald of thunder.

I alway do my own build my own play style but it always lack of way to build more.

The main point that I tried to say is there are too many limit and requirement on using support gems.[/quote]


THere are like 1,000 support gems or close to it. Yes it is restrictive in that degree I won't deny it. I personally enjoy figuring out what combos work but I guess different strokes different folks.
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peerapongjen#4448 написал:

Man even lightning thorn killing shocked monster cannot activate herald of thunder.
Has two reasons. Herald of Thunder only triggers if you kill an enemy with attack damage, and, more importantly, even if it would be coded as an "attack" - thorns are not considered "Hits" made by your character.
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JarlaxleDaerthe#2435 написал:
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No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.


You are not alone.
Build diversity is one of the many concerns people have with the direction of the game right now, there are many skill interactions that do not make sense, like requiring certain weapons in order to use seemingly unrelated skills.
But the major concern is how soul crushingly limiting it is to only have one of each support gem, though Gemling can use more.

Early days, but unless they start listening to the majority of the playerbase the future of PoE 2 is bleak indeed.

Sure there are multiple skill interactions that dont make sense and a lot of skill should have multiple weapon options to bring more diversity, however with the current gem/skill design i do think they have to restrict the use of multiple copies of the same support gems in some way. Having 9 fully linked skills using the same support gems would be even worse desing than the current.

Another thing that limits the build diversity is the lack of build enabling uniques and item interactions like we have in poe 1, but i think at some point in the future patches we will see more of these.

The things i feel right now that kills the fun for people is the length of the campign, obviously the loot , atlas tree feeling uselesss, endgame not where it needs to be and the balance needs a lot more work.

One thing i really dont understand is, we have heard multiple times during development that they wanted a slower game with a focus on using multiple skills and combo's, so why do they still have mechanichs like breach, delirium etc. which favours only one playstyle (omegafast 1 button clearspeed). It kind of makes me feel like this game has an identity crisis, everyone know that time based mechanics only favours ultra fast chars and forces a certain playstyle/meta on people
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JarlaxleDaerthe#2435 написал:
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No I am not interested in meta. I just wonder why thorn killing cannot activate herald of ash. I think you can see that skills and support gems are limit of mixing. That is why I said that this game lack of build diversify now.


You are not alone.
Build diversity is one of the many concerns people have with the direction of the game right now, there are many skill interactions that do not make sense, like requiring certain weapons in order to use seemingly unrelated skills.
But the major concern is how soul crushingly limiting it is to only have one of each support gem, though Gemling can use more.

Early days, but unless they start listening to the majority of the playerbase the future of PoE 2 is bleak indeed.

Sure there are multiple skill interactions that dont make sense and a lot of skill should have multiple weapon options to bring more diversity, however with the current gem/skill design i do think they have to restrict the use of multiple copies of the same support gems in some way. Having 9 fully linked skills using the same support gems would be even worse desing than the current.

Another thing that limits the build diversity is the lack of build enabling uniques and item interactions like we have in poe 1, but i think at some point in the future patches we will see more of these.

The things i feel right now that kills the fun for people is the length of the campign, obviously the loot , atlas tree feeling uselesss, endgame not where it needs to be and the balance needs a lot more work.

One thing i really dont understand is, we have heard multiple times during development that they wanted a slower game with a focus on using multiple skills and combo's, so why do they still have mechanichs like breach, delirium etc. which favours only one playstyle (omegafast 1 button clearspeed). It kind of makes me feel like this game has an identity crisis, everyone know that time based mechanics only favours ultra fast chars and forces a certain playstyle/meta on people



I think why its that way is because GGG is in uncharted territory and have a vision of what this new type of gameplay looks like. They've been working on POE 1 for 10 years and coming into POE 2 trying something new is going to be a lot of bumps and fails. People just need to cut them some slack and let them cook.
You know, I actually want them to do that - don't listen to criticism, do whatever you think is right and watch how your game crashes and burns

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