POE2 has strict Authoritarian Builds, diversity isn't possible BY DESIGN. RIP Buildcrafting.

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

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LiMA6#0387 написал:

You people need to understand while it is ideal to have various build possibilities, that are competitive enough with each other.... balancing them such that they aren't OP or UP isn't realistic. just one oversight is enough to make a build brokenly OP to the point no other builds are desirable.

This is the strangest argument I have heard. POE2 is not a compeditive nor PvP game. The idea that they have to be balanced against each other is ludicrous. They just have to work within the game. They had this for 12y. Did they have a head injury and forget?

I do not like not having build diversity. I am with everyone here. We want many possible builds, thats why we play poe in the first place.

But poe2 in its infancy and now with inexperienced devs (good ones have left). They are quite at loss on how to balance things. People eventually figure out some OP build time after time again, especially ruetoo. And then there's again little reason to play some other build. Of course I prefer if people have the freedom to play how they want. It's just unrealistic to expect balance while not over/undertuning. So many moving parts. Maybe once they are experienced abit more with poe2 this will change.

Maybe Jonathan's vision is making PoE2 a moba game in the end?

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LiMA6#0387 написал:

I do not like not having build diversity. I am with everyone here. We want many possible builds, thats why we play poe in the first place.

There's plenty of build diversity, your problem is that you dont want to play a normal build, you want lightning spear and other utterly broken metaslave builds that clear screens.

Thankfully poe2 devs made it clear that this is not the POE2 vision so all those broken builds will keep getting nerfed to the ground each patch until you learn to play the game for fun, and not to abuse the most broken combo out there.

One must keep in mind that even though the devs say they can't wait to see our broken and outlandish builds, what they really mean is "we can't wait to nerf your OP builds into the dirt." They want us playing the game a certain way, not our way but their way and if that is the case then give us a linear build path for every character and ascension because what's the point of build diversity if you don't want us over powered in the end game? The whole point of us playing games like this is to at some point be godlike, I'm not trying to be average Joe in the endgame, average Joe is for middle game and nobody is starting/early game. End game I should be blazing through mods of trash regardless of modifiers and bosses should be epic combat, I shouldn't be one shot by white mobs and blue and yellow mods are just damage sponges.

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

This is the strangest argument I have heard. POE2 is not a compeditive nor PvP game. The idea that they have to be balanced against each other is ludicrous. They just have to work within the game. They had this for 12y. Did they have a head injury and forget?

Can't agree with this at all. I want there to be a compelling reason to pick any one skill over another. If, generally speaking, there ends up a "top tier" of power skills that drive most builds (this will always happen, just use it as a starting point) then I want to see all the ignored ones be given an edge to make them an arguable pick instead of "like the top tier, but worse".

In the case of extreme examples like the old Herald spam or the current Lightning Spear, individual things that overperform the rest of the field by 10000% should absolutely be axed. I don't want this game to be power crept into oblivion out of some strange idea that we can never walk back power even when it's clearly undermining the so called "vision".

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Amutsal#3419 написал:

I want there to be a compelling reason to pick any one skill over another.

You have a compelling reason, its called enjoying the playstyle and how it feels.

I like delayed burst damage style of skills hence why I loved making builds with frost orb, ember fusilage, stormcaller arrow etc.

That's the only compelling reason you need, its finding it fun.

Not because its broken and a streamer went "omg hurr best skill, 1 shot boss haha"

GGG: "Players aren't playing the game as we intended. Please follow the build guide"

https://youtu.be/-R9clutdRVU?si=dSMHpLBJVr_Mr3U1

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LiMA6#0387 написал:

I do not like not having build diversity. I am with everyone here. We want many possible builds, thats why we play poe in the first place.

There's plenty of build diversity, your problem is that you dont want to play a normal build, you want lightning spear and other utterly broken metaslave builds that clear screens.

Thankfully poe2 devs made it clear that this is not the POE2 vision so all those broken builds will keep getting nerfed to the ground each patch until you learn to play the game for fun, and not to abuse the most broken combo out there.

I don't play LS, but my wife/kid does. I personally geared them, so I know. In this league, if you don't play LS, prepare to play path of suffering. So which would you choose?

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LiMA6#0387 написал:

I don't play LS, but my wife/kid does. I personally geared them, so I know. In this league, if you don't play LS, prepare to play path of suffering. So which would you choose?

I play SSF, lvl 92 ritualist fire mage with ember fusilage and got my last 15th nexus yesterday.

I am enjoying the game quite a lot without playing some silly broken LS build.

I run a warrior fire God Smith with contagion. Max block chance, massive energy shield, damage over time with contagion. I can run any map and exclusively run 6 affix maps. I don't allow lightning spear in my public parties. Basically all the nerfs have been appropriate IMO. Some people arent happy unless they never see a monster. I hope those builds are nerfed into oblivion, and GGG seems to be doing a pretty good job. The whole cult of running the most broken build at all times can kick rocks. Try actually playing the game. You can build whatever you want. My warrior has chaos innoculation for God's sake. Just my 2cents.