Five Weeks into 0.2.0, POE2 is Down 93.2% Players All Time & 83.9% from Patch Launch

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

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enslavedemperor#5410 написал:

Again, comparing 1st day of the game with current day in terms of players is enough to not take into consideration your post, not because it may not contain something valuable in it, but because it starts with something totally wrong.

And here is where I disagree. POE1 leagues held very long and then surged back to full at the beginning of each league with the aggregate launch count rising over the years. It would take POE1 almost all of the league of three months to get down to such low percentage and then it would surge right back.

POE2 could have been the refined version of POE1 with a better story, cutscenes, innovative ideas and extensive marketing. Instead they chose to throw almost all of POE1 in the trash except some base mechanics. Such a shame.

Your problem here is that you want them to just make poe1 with better cutscenes and some new graphics. While what they are doing is making a new game, which involves testing new systems.

Still ok numbers for early access seasonal game, middle of half kind of almost season. By your logic, PoE 1 is a complete failure of a game and should be deleted asap, 10 years of content and 7k people - why aren't you playing it btw, graphic too old, or no sense to play it without a fresh gimmick?

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

Decisions like:

1. Let's create a new kind of game that mixes Souls Like combat with 90,000,251 enemies coming at the player at once.

A great undertaking, meaningful combat + h&s mob size + rpg depth. IF they succeed, it will be the ultimate arpg.

Rest of your points is just various ways of saying that you don't like how the sandbox aspect is cut. I'd prefer more freedom as well, but they go for more personality in the classes, as opposed to flying carpet boomzoom whatever vehicle.

Or crafting, deterministic crafting takes away from loot, just buy yourself an alchemist simulator to sit behind a bench all day, and then some juicy autobattler and you're good.

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

I spent $480 (plus tax) of my money on the Liberator of Wraeclast pack, before I even saw the game because I had so much belief in GGG. But you forgot the most important part of the vision. YOUR vision isn't nearly as important as the customer's vision. Unless this is some pet project that is disposable, customers matter. And in the process you have killed POE1 with inattention.

Nah, game design is not a democracy. I disagree with almost everything you say about the game, so which customer is right? Majority? Then go ask people which music genre to delete, and you will end with Bach deleted and Despacito still avilable. The idea that customer should decide game design is stupid, there is enough of dependency on customers in this supporter pack system, without your misguided ideas about the mythical, unifided "customer", who accidently always wants exactly what you do.

Btw I will gladly upgrade to Liberator or buy next 480 if the game stays close to vision, and will not if it goes your way. What now?

Btw 2 PoE 1 is still alive so far, and 2 is not even finished, so hard to judge the final amount of freedom, and then there are seasons to come. The idea that it's dead is just your hysteria, come back when the death is announced or there is no 3.26 in June.

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

It's time to reset. Re-eval. Call an all-hands meeting and say "guys this isn't working" and begin doing what you planned in the first place, make a SEQUEL to Path of Exile.

No, it's better to have 2 games, I will play both, and don't need another PoE 1 with less content, which wasn't even meant to be that but is quickly adapted bc some guy demanded it. Again, come back when PoE 1 doesn't respond when you press play.

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Nyon#6673 написал:

Your problem here is that you want them to just make poe1 with better cutscenes and some new graphics. While what they are doing is making a new game, which involves testing new systems.

It's called poe2 so of course people want it to be poe.
Especially since it uses a lot of supporters money from previous years.
Don't call it poe2 otherwise. Make a new game with different name.

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 написал:

A great undertaking, meaningful combaе

No one really wants "meaningful combat"

And poe1 is dead for 7 months, idk what you're talking about

No one would complain about poe2 being bad if poe1 had a league every 3 months

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Hornsent#1110 написал:

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Nyon#6673 написал:

Your problem here is that you want them to just make poe1 with better cutscenes and some new graphics. While what they are doing is making a new game, which involves testing new systems.

It's called poe2 so of course people want it to be poe.
Especially since it uses a lot of supporters money from previous years.
Don't call it poe2 otherwise. Make a new game with different name.

And how is it not Path of Exile? It has the same "core values", everything that made Path of Exile... Path of Exile is present in the 2nd game.

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Hornsent#1110 написал:

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Nyon#6673 написал:

Your problem here is that you want them to just make poe1 with better cutscenes and some new graphics. While what they are doing is making a new game, which involves testing new systems.

It's called poe2 so of course people want it to be poe.
Especially since it uses a lot of supporters money from previous years.
Don't call it poe2 otherwise. Make a new game with different name.

Ok but a games predecessor isnt typically an identical copy of the previous one.

Having the same name implies that its a similar game, typically in the same world with similar mechanics and playstyles.

If it was just gonna be an exact copy then there would be no point in making it.

They wanted to make a new game because they wanted to try new systems.
And its in early access so thats why their testing new atlas system, new crafting system, new combat mechanics, etc.

Some of these I fully expect they will go back on and copy from poe1 and some of them will probably when their fully developped be better then they ever were in poe1. But if you just stamp your feet and shout thats everything bad if its slightly different in poe1 then its not gonna lead anywhere.

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Hornsent#1110 написал:

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 написал:

A great undertaking, meaningful combaе

No one really wants "meaningful combat"

And poe1 is dead for 7 months, idk what you're talking about

No one would complain about poe2 being bad if poe1 had a league every 3 months

I want meaningful combat, your statement invalid in a second.

PoE1 dead, funny I just played it, good time for HC SSF ruthless since it's all quiet anyway.

I'm sorry you can't play without trade, or that you need some new gimmick in this infinite sandbox of freedom, one you all love so much that you demand a sequel to be a copy of it.

Funny btw how I seem to love 1 more in all its aspects than the PoE 2 bad PoE 1 king crowd.

Yes shame there is no leagues, doesn't mean game is dead, and I thought it's al about endless possibilities and superior gameplay? Idk

185M death man! this not fun game!

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Nyon#6673 написал:

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Kraythax#2592 написал:

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enslavedemperor#5410 написал:

Again, comparing 1st day of the game with current day in terms of players is enough to not take into consideration your post, not because it may not contain something valuable in it, but because it starts with something totally wrong.

And here is where I disagree. POE1 leagues held very long and then surged back to full at the beginning of each league with the aggregate launch count rising over the years. It would take POE1 almost all of the league of three months to get down to such low percentage and then it would surge right back.

POE2 could have been the refined version of POE1 with a better story, cutscenes, innovative ideas and extensive marketing. Instead they chose to throw almost all of POE1 in the trash except some base mechanics. Such a shame.

Your problem here is that you want them to just make poe1 with better cutscenes and some new graphics. While what they are doing is making a new game, which involves testing new systems.

New systems? They took almost all of the systems here from POE1 and the only thing truly new is the gem system which is a wreck.

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Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 написал:

A great undertaking, meaningful combat + h&s mob size + rpg depth. IF they succeed, it will be the ultimate arpg.

Rest of your points is just various ways of saying that you don't like how the sandbox aspect is cut. I'd prefer more freedom as well, but they go for more personality in the classes, as opposed to flying carpet boomzoom whatever vehicle.

Well you are in the 3% to 5% that like the game. That is not enough to support the product. So you wont have this game because it wont make any money unless they MTX pay to win the hell out of it.