Dominus in 74 map. Little bit much..


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SamBaLam написал:
Rofl? @Andinuad, it's not "I can't beat an end game elemental boss" it's the fact I got one shot by his attack that when you are melee and have to be upfront and face to face with him, seems a bit much. And 77 res is over capped, and I should not be getting 1 shot by it with the defensive stats I have regardless if I used a topaz flask or not.

Also I don't plan on testing it unless I'm freshly leveled, but if I get one shot like this then chances are I'd still get 1 shot from that attack even with a topaz flask, because I doubt it's all LIGHTNING damage..

The amount of people flaming here just shows how thick some people are. The way you people twist and change words that I've said, learn to read.. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit much for an attack that melee characters don't have a strong chance at being able to dodge it. I consider myself pretty tanky and I'm viable in many end game maps including 77's and to have a 74 boss be able to 1 shot me is quite a bit.

Had the map had extra damage mods? I could see that. But for having absolutely no extra damage mods on the map, and for him to just be THAT powerful...like I said, "seems a bit much" but you people keep twisting up words here and flaming for no reason. I'm asking for a discussion about this, and has ANYONE tried tanking this attack?

Please do me a favor andinuad, seeing how you are level 74, have you tried this map boss yet? When you do, bring a topaz flask and try fighting him on a melee character and tell me if you're able to dodge the attack easily/not get one shot with having at least 5k life and hell use a topaz flask if you want.

It kills me how many people are talking about this WHO HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED THIS MAP! When you have a level 74 and you aren't in the end-game maps yet, your opinion is really supposed to mean something here? Sigh...

*facepalm* that, please.


As if I don't have another account with lv85+ character D:. This is my nemesis account.

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


Okay, and have you done this map? You still are forgetting the point, NO OTHER BOSS ONE SHOTS with just one single attack that is hard to dodge. What is so hard about understanding my point here? An attack which is pretty much impossible to dodge with a melee character that can one shot with such high defenses is a little over the top.

Please stay on topic and stop bringing up shit I haven't said. 77 shrine piety doesn't one shot me, 76 crema boss doesn't one shot me, etc etc etc.
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SamBaLam написал:
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andinuad написал:
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SamBaLam написал:
Rofl? @Andinuad, it's not "I can't beat an end game elemental boss" it's the fact I got one shot by his attack that when you are melee and have to be upfront and face to face with him, seems a bit much. And 77 res is over capped, and I should not be getting 1 shot by it with the defensive stats I have regardless if I used a topaz flask or not.

Also I don't plan on testing it unless I'm freshly leveled, but if I get one shot like this then chances are I'd still get 1 shot from that attack even with a topaz flask, because I doubt it's all LIGHTNING damage..

The amount of people flaming here just shows how thick some people are. The way you people twist and change words that I've said, learn to read.. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit much for an attack that melee characters don't have a strong chance at being able to dodge it. I consider myself pretty tanky and I'm viable in many end game maps including 77's and to have a 74 boss be able to 1 shot me is quite a bit.

Had the map had extra damage mods? I could see that. But for having absolutely no extra damage mods on the map, and for him to just be THAT powerful...like I said, "seems a bit much" but you people keep twisting up words here and flaming for no reason. I'm asking for a discussion about this, and has ANYONE tried tanking this attack?

Please do me a favor andinuad, seeing how you are level 74, have you tried this map boss yet? When you do, bring a topaz flask and try fighting him on a melee character and tell me if you're able to dodge the attack easily/not get one shot with having at least 5k life and hell use a topaz flask if you want.

It kills me how many people are talking about this WHO HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED THIS MAP! When you have a level 74 and you aren't in the end-game maps yet, your opinion is really supposed to mean something here? Sigh...

*facepalm* that, please.


As if I don't have another account with lv85+ character D:. This is my nemesis account.

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


Okay, and have you done this map? You still are forgetting the point, NO OTHER BOSS ONE SHOTS with just one single attack that is hard to dodge. What is so hard about understanding my point here? An attack which is pretty much impossible to dodge with a melee character that can one shot with such high defenses is a little over the top.

Please stay on topic and stop bringing up shit I haven't said. 77 shrine piety doesn't one shot me, 76 crema boss doesn't one shot me, etc etc etc.


71 Temple Piety does a hell lot of elemental damage given that it is just a 71 map. Stand still for 3 seconds and count the total damage you take from map piety, dominus and Megaera. It is insane numbers. I couldn't care less about whether all that ele damage comes in form of a large hit or many smaller hits; it only matters for the status ailments.

All this leads towards the conclusion that GGG those bosses with elemental potions in mind. Since you aren't using one against Dominus, your right to complain is lackluster.

About that lightning attack: I did some testing before, and if I remember correctly changing lighting resistance heavily influeced the damage taken, but using granite did not seem to matter at all. Of course this can be tested against normal difficulty Dominus.
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andinuad написал:

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


OP, now you learn how the game is intended to be played.

Did you have 10k+ Hp and 100+ resistance? If the answer is no, then you should expect to be one shot by elemental damage.

Since flasks that help you raise the resistance last less than 4.2 seconds. Your DPS is too low if you cant clear everything in that time frame.

Now you know the standard, its time for you to L2P? I have faith in you, OP, you seem like a smart guy.
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I'm still having trouble fathoming how a level 78 Maegera isn't insanely harder than a 76 Dominus :O
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Tomorrow написал:
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andinuad написал:

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


OP, now you learn how the game is intended to be played.

Did you have 10k+ Hp and 100+ resistance? If the answer is no, then you should expect to be one shot by elemental damage.

Since flasks that help you raise the resistance last less than 4.2 seconds. Your DPS is too low if you cant clear everything in that time frame.

Now you know the standard, its time for you to L2P? I have faith in you, OP, you seem like a smart guy.


Yes, GGG loves gear checks and Dominus is one such. Welcome to Path of Exile? I certainly prefer bosses to be designed more like Vaal: where you can avoid all damage if you play like a god, but GGG loves those gear checks and I have accepted this.

Furthermore, bring 2-3 pots depending on your dps. Each pot gives you 2 times 4.2 seconds => 25.2 seconds in total if you bring 3. Of course if you are a crit build, you can recharge while you actually fight.
What's hilarious to me is you seriously think one potion is going to save my life against that attack? We are TALKING ABOUT A ONE SHOT HERE. You say that my right to complain is unjusticed because I didn't bring a fucking topaz flask with me? Rofl?? You haven't even done the map so I'd like to say your comments mean NOTHING because you don't know what I'm talking about, seeing how you haven't experienced it yourself.

And oh yeah, that's just your nemesis account? Your other 2 accounts in standard are level 69 and 62 rofl. You mean to tell me you did this map on those accounts? Really? You made the forum account in februrary so don't tell me it's a different forum account, seeing how none of these leagues were out back in Feb.

Your credibility just went down the drain on this subject. Yeah, like vaal and you are talking about merciless vaal in a what..level 62 zone? The highest map you've probably done is a 71.

But yeah, sorry. Everything I'm saying doesn't matter because I didn't take a topaz flask with me! If I took a topaz flask, according to this guy, it would have saved my life for sure! Definitely wouldn't of 1 shot me!
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Tomorrow написал:
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andinuad написал:

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


OP, now you learn how the game is intended to be played.

Did you have 10k+ Hp and 100+ resistance? If the answer is no, then you should expect to be one shot by elemental damage.

Since flasks that help you raise the resistance last less than 4.2 seconds. Your DPS is too low if you cant clear everything in that time frame.

Now you know the standard, its time for you to L2P? I have faith in you, OP, you seem like a smart guy.


4.2 seconds isnt enough time to kill end game map bosses.
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Nephalim написал:
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Tomorrow написал:
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andinuad написал:

You seem to believe that the game should be balanced around 75% resists, it isn't and has not been for many months. What you complain about Dominus is precisely what people complained about Temple Piety and Megaera. Endgame elemental damage is not balanced around 75% resist.


OP, now you learn how the game is intended to be played.

Did you have 10k+ Hp and 100+ resistance? If the answer is no, then you should expect to be one shot by elemental damage.

Since flasks that help you raise the resistance last less than 4.2 seconds. Your DPS is too low if you cant clear everything in that time frame.

Now you know the standard, its time for you to L2P? I have faith in you, OP, you seem like a smart guy.


4.2 seconds isnt enough time to kill end game map bosses.


You clearly isnt up to GGG standard if you cant kill end game map bosses in 4.2 seconds. But dont worry, GGG loves you and is willing to help. Thats why you have multiple flasks and 6 portals.
IGN QTCRZ
Последняя редакция: Tomorrow#2472. Время: 8 нояб. 2013 г., 23:18:40
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SamBaLam написал:
What's hilarious to me is you seriously think one potion is going to save my life against that attack? We are TALKING ABOUT A ONE SHOT HERE. You say that my right to complain is unjusticed because I didn't bring a fucking topaz flask with me? Rofl?? You haven't even done the map so I'd like to say your comments mean NOTHING because you don't know what I'm talking about, seeing how you haven't experienced it yourself.

And oh yeah, that's just your nemesis account? Your other 2 accounts in standard are level 69 and 62 rofl. You mean to tell me you did this map on those accounts? Really? You made the forum account in februrary so don't tell me it's a different forum account, seeing how none of these leagues were out back in Feb.

Your credibility just went down the drain on this subject. Yeah, like vaal and you are talking about merciless vaal in a what..level 62 zone? The highest map you've probably done is a 71.

But yeah, sorry. Everything I'm saying doesn't matter because I didn't take a topaz flask with me! If I took a topaz flask, according to this guy, it would have saved my life for sure! Definitely wouldn't of 1 shot me!


First of all, "character" is not equivalent to account. My standard characters on this account are reeped characters. This account = "andinuad".

About vaal: all forms of vaal, including maze vaal are properly designed.

I am not stating that a topaz flask would have saved you, but is certainly a massive error to go against an elemental endgame boss without the proper elemental flasks.

Let's assume that the hit barely killed you: that means that the non-mitigated damage would be 5k/0.23 = 21739. With 87% resist through topaz flask, you would only have taken 2826 damage instead f the assumed 5000 dmg at 77% resist.

If you had prepared your character with the no-brain choice of Saffell's Frame in your second second weapon-set, then the damage given the assumptions would have been only 1739.

Hell let's for sake of the argument say that the attack that killed you actually did 10000 damage, then if you had prepared properly, you would have only take 3478 damage.

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