Fragment drop + Statistical Info + Graphs

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Kagari написал:

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BoltThrower87 написал:

Honestly, are you all *that* surprised lol? Im not. GGG must have a business model also. Nothing in life is free my friends.

I don't see how hidding everything behind RNG will help their buisiness tbh, rather the opposite. It's not like they re selling drop rate bossts and shit like this.

Whether it will help or not I don't know, but the idea seems to be to keep players playing as long as possible (thus getting a better chance at selling more MTX). I guess what would be ideal would be to find a sweet spot, where people are actualy happy while playing for that duration. That is probably the hard part.

Fragments being useable to improve map quantity is nice and all, but makes for a really separated gameplay experience when corrupted areas can't spawn on maps. If your goal is to fight atziri, getting more items on maps isn't helping you in that regard. No one trying to get to atziri right now is playing on maps.

I went back in game happy and started playing, got Vaal Gems incorporated in my builds, it was cool.

Hey, corrupted areas, can't wait to get to the new content, it should be awesome.

Hey, shard drops, cool, i'll fight queen Atziri in no time.

Wait...where's the fourth one..where's the midnight shard..ah it's ok, just grind some more areas...10.20...100..200.. WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES??

So little did I know.

To hell with it if I'm gonna grind like a retard to hope to find an area in which I hope to find a shard, after which I hope to find all 4 so I can have ONE SINGLE SHOT with 6 portals at the new content. Then I have to start all over again?????


HELL NO THANKS. New content LOL....I felt it like a slap in the face.

A point to add. u spend dozen of hours farming in an area where u have max penalty to exp and quantity.. so u basically get nothing.
At least add corrupted areas to end game maps.

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Wooser69 написал:

Fragments being useable to improve map quantity is nice and all, but makes for a really separated gameplay experience when corrupted areas can't spawn on maps. If your goal is to fight atziri, getting more items on maps isn't helping you in that regard. No one trying to get to atziri right now is playing on maps.

That's because in yet another raised middle finger to self-finders, GGG has designed and balanced its game assuming that everyone loves spamming trade chat instead of grinding. You're clearly supposed to sell them to the people that want to map all day.

As a standard player who does not wish to start a new character:

Hunting through storyline areas (which are low level compared to maps and void of added difficulty modifiers) for corrupted zones and fragments is arguably boring. There's no risk and with present spawn rates and fragment drop frequencies the reward feels too infrequent (especially given the opportunity cost). Overall this makes the new content feel very underwhelming.

At issue is the restriction of corrupted content to storyline zones, which creates a boring and underwhelming gameplay experience for higher level players because:
1. storyline zones cap at 10 levels below map cap and unless you have the fortitude to exclusively replay 1-2 storyline zones, you're going to be farming even lower zones for variety,
2. storyline zones lack additional modifiers that add difficulty, and
3. storyline zone grinding hampers progression (due to reduced XP and monster-level based item/affix gates).

Forcing extensive boring grind to experience new content is the sort of gimmick I'd expect from monthly sub mmo's. I am not convinced of a net benefit for doing that in PoE.

Solution?
Add a chance that any map you enter will be corrupted or contain a corrupted zone (and/or enable the use of a vaal orb on a map to guarantee a corrupted zone). This allows dedicated players to enjoy the new content in a more stimulating way.

As someone who wants to start a new character or reroll in the new leagues:

In this case the mini expac is more rewarding. The corrupted zones add some spice to the storyline play-through. But once you reach the level and gear for mapping (which for some players is just a few days), all the vaal stuff becomes a boring grind. I'd like to see GGG maintain the vaal content within the storyline for spice, while better incorporating it in some way that's not boring for high level/high gear quality players.

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Shagsbeard написал:

He's basically pointing out that while the fragments are consumed at the same rate, they're produced at vastly different rates. The more common ones are going to pile up and be worthless, while the rare one is the only one that retains value. It's kind of like the monopoly game at McDonalds. After a few visits, you know which tokens to throw out.

yeah , i understand it's the mcdonald's monopoly game -- it's the qq I don't understand

you don't think mcdonald's knows wtf they're doing?

Just did a merci act 1 & 2 full clear, found ZERO Vaal zones, crazy...

Am I flagged for some reason?

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EomMage написал:

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Shagsbeard написал:

He's basically pointing out that while the fragments are consumed at the same rate, they're produced at vastly different rates. The more common ones are going to pile up and be worthless, while the rare one is the only one that retains value. It's kind of like the monopoly game at McDonalds. After a few visits, you know which tokens to throw out.

yeah , i understand it's the mcdonald's monopoly game -- it's the qq I don't understand

you don't think mcdonald's knows wtf they're doing?

It's not QQ. Mcdonald's knows what is doing, convincing suckers they have a chance of winning something, when in reality there is almost no chance.

Most of people with the IQ higher than their character level avoid this shit irl. I'm just disappointed that GGG thinks we are all suckers...

Wow... since the release of new leagues, I stayed in invasion and the gaming experience felt fresh and rewarding. I even died at ~lvl. 40 and instantly remade the character and started playing the same content just because playing invasion/ambush is a pretty darn good alternative to watching a movie or wasting time elsewhere.

But reading through this thread... my God is it harsh for people playing high level characters in the "legacy" leagues.

I guess I have to agree with the maker of this thread, it must be boring, tedious and with close to no reward playing the inaccessible new content.

I guess something will be done to fix this, I hope so at least.