VP was never the problem

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shaunika90 написал:

for example I cant really see how selfcast DP or barrage could function without VP
then again, I've been only playing this game for roughly a year.

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Kastmar написал:

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Again, VP is not removed. Instant leech is.

And what's the difference? VP is dead anyway. Instant leech made this keystone useful.

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shaunika90 написал:

gladiator is gonna be insanely good for example with the new VP I think.

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Sa_Re написал:

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shaunika90 написал:

gladiator is gonna be insanely good for example with the new VP I think.

Not sure on this. The weakness of high block builds is degen which gets even nastier with zero regen.

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ignatius_reilly написал:

Get rid of enemy crits. There I fixed the game.

RNG damage. WTF

Also get rid of Life Leech altogether. So long as players want high damage (which is always) then LL will be a problem. I predict a few patches from now: All life leech halved twice to 0.0003%, VP restores life over 2 hours. Oh, and all monster damage doubled, because this game needs to be more hardkor.

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Nephalim написал:

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Snorkle_uk написал:

where are you guys seeing these spikes and 1 shots when clearing maps? I honestly dont think they exist if you dont want them to. Are you guys sure you are not using the flexibility of poes builds to make characters that are heavy on damage, low on defense and thats why you are experiencing such massive incoming damage?

Breach mobs/breach bosses
Beyond mobs/beyond bosses
Proximity shield bastards
Sub T15 bosses (if anyone still does this)
literally any mob that touches you in a -max/monster damage/what ever affix map

I would say its rare to get gimped by a non boss but over the course of hundreds an hundreds of hard rolled maps breached or beyond the number of deaths will quickly reach a baseline where progression becomes impossible for most players.

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kshuxxx написал:

Seems you "get it " , critical hits on atacks that allready do 90% of player hp nice design.
Its even more ilogical design for me as defenses especially armour doeant work vs big hits.

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innervation написал:

What the people partaking in this back and forth should realize is this: you see the balance hierarchy in two fundamentally different ways. Imagine that you both agree the game has 100 builds of variable viability, and those builds are represented as a child's wooden blocks.

Camp 1 immediately stacks the blocks one on top of the other, reaching 100 high. They have a balance 'ladder'. They would NEVER consider putting two blocks on the same tier, or 10 blocks horizontally in a group. One build is always at least .0001% better than another, and therefore it gets stacked above the worse one.

For GGG to significantly nerf the top block, is to them unquestionably the full and complete loss of that block, as they only value the top 3 blocks.

Camp 2 organizes their blocks into 5 layers of gradually decreasing amounts. They have a balance 'pyramid'. Differentiating between .0001% power seems silly to them, so they just group them with other, similar things.

For GGG to significantly nerf the top block, or even the whole top group of blocks isn't a big deal. They see and expanded horizon of builds below it, waiting to become the new top. They value the top 3 tiers of blocks.

It is in this way that you can both be adamant that nerfs create or destroy build diversity.

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Nephalim написал:

I would say the vast majority of players want to face roll content and find good loot after a hard day's of work. I don't know why people perpetuate the idea that poe is a skill based hardcore game that should require quick reflexes and constant thought on your ridiculous alt f4 macro. If you want to be hardcore, play hardcore mode.

The majority of things you listed are event bosses, instant leech has little to do with them because the vast majority of their attacks will one shot you anyways. You are also not likely going to gain any exp anyways if youre running uber atziri or shaper non stop so the need to survive through VP is even less crucial.

Instant leech is crucial for steam rolling trash content that intermittently spikes for most of your life. GGG is destroying the game because they can't stand players being able to clear maps quickly and advance to level 100 because this directly reduces their profit margins from mtx sales.