Tempest Shield… The least used skill?

tempest shield: nice/cute dps boost on the side, and acts like additional regen when devoted to with life leech or mana leech (as well as other damage boosts). careful of mana costs though, it is a percent after all.

detonate dead: i have a build that can consistently one shot foes with it. the only problem of this skill, is that you already need a corpse, which means a different damage dealing skill is required.

frost wall: give it to a totem, enjoy laughing and protection from melee. otherwise give it duration boost if you want to cast yourself to buy yourself time or seal foes in a spot.

conversion trap:: want to use that rare mob or totem for yourself? use this skill as often as you want, but get duration boost for it and/or wait for later levels of it.

arc: elemental proliferation, done and enjoy.

freeze mine: ok yes this is (still) questionable, someone needs to test proliferation. AoE size works. detonating mine speed has been updated to be a lot less annoying.

trap (support): there's no dps loss in using this. in fact, it gains some interesting properties. ice nova or shock nova can now be cast not at center of you. stack skills 3 times in a spot for a burst damage. use skills around the corner (lay trap before hand and a mob will run over it while you hide).

remote mine: same as trap support except that you have to push a button, and you can lay more (5 instead of 3) AND gets a damage boost that multiplies. why the heck not? 5 firestorms or cold snaps at once? yes please. or just use it as a damage booster to offset a totem's damage penalty. or hell both mines and traps can "by pass" the double totem passive's penalty.

edit:
punishment: yup this is bad, the only situation it is good, is if you have a lot of minions... and the cursed foes deal AoE physical damage...
Последняя редакция: soul4hdwn#0698. Время: 19 июл. 2013 г., 13:42:59
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Zemel написал:
Anyone use detonate dead ? or conversion trap ?


There are some DD builds around. Being able to single target something down then Detonate and 1-shot everything around it seems like it'd be useful (that said I don't have any experience with DD builds but scaling the damage to that level doesn't seem impossible with burn). I'd do one myself if I had a high quality DD (3% cast speed per quality means a ~10% one is kinda shitty by comparison).

Conversion Trap is great, kinda lame though because it's not actually helping you kill shit faster, just safer.

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Seeders написал:
The least used skill is Punishment.


We have a winner.

Jesus I tried a Skeleton/Punishment build a while back and for like 30 levels the Skeleton's killed stuff faster and it was just a pain to level. I guess it might work maybe late-game when mob damage gets ramped up, but it's not very fun until then.
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soul4hdwn написал:
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I got your point.I agree that everything could be useful in some way.
BUT.
You have to make these builds work.It'll not be easy.I mean,really.
AND.
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Последняя редакция: torturo#7228. Время: 19 июл. 2013 г., 14:58:00
Remote Mine is far from useless for certain summoner builds.
Remote mine has a large "More" multiplier which does work on minions when they are summoned with the Remote Mine.
I like using it with Flame Sentinel Spectres for a huge damage boost.
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Seeders написал:
The least used skill is Punishment.

Definitely. All the others have a use, Punishment is just junk. It was removed from the game for a very long time, then was brought back without accounting for the year+ difference between player/minion defenses, enemy life, and enemy damage.

This skill was gone for so long that I had completely forgotten it existed. It's horrible currently.
Dude, Frost Wall + Totem is one of the most fun things in PoE. My pulser got it and im all like "TOUCH ME NOW, BI*CHES" while pulsing mobs to death.
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soul4hdwn написал:

frost wall: give it to a totem, enjoy laughing and protection from melee. otherwise give it duration boost if you want to cast yourself to buy yourself time or seal foes in a spot.


I'm not sure I would ever trust a totem to not wall me into my enemies. Then there's the 10-20% possibility the server will think the enemy is on the side of the wall closer to you when your client doesn't...
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Tempest shield is great - often it is used in builds as a shock generator (ele profileration was quite popular on it if i remember correctly)

And i've seen two or 3 different builds which actually use it as their main (or one of their main) way to kill stuff (IIRC there was a guy with crazy gear who used max lvl arcitc armor to reduce incoming damage and his build was made to just stand still in the midlle of enemis and kill them with TS, when he moved on he used lighning warp to move (so he never got the big mana drain from moving with arctic armor))
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punishment + tempest shild 5 linked + molten shell 4 linked , with a very odd build im almost 100 % sure u have never seen ( it's a 100 % dedicated PvP build, and no i do not share it ) is SOOOoooo funny in PvP. watching sporkers 1 shot themselfs is so funny , yes thare are ways to make is affect casters to .

When game comes out and PvP becomes more popular u will c it used much more i bet, as for PvE, i do know of some people using it however i can not say anything to how well it works.
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That's a pretty good thing to note - punishment would be really powerful in pvp. It's basically just giving yourself a reflect aura.

Not just with the above build - but even just with (say) skeletons. Hey Mr huge dps, why don't you kill my skeletons? Go on, why not?

I love the 4% block chance that Tempest shield gives (5% with IF). If it weren't for that, though, Tempest shield would be relegated to niche builds.
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