Steamchart - doesnt look too healthy?! :/
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Personally I believe it has more to do with league ages. Last leagues (onslaught etc) population dropped off quite a bit midway through. Once the new leagues come around watch the population jump again for a few months.
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Thanks skinnay, you really helped me out.
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" I can't dispute or support anything without any kind of numbers, obviously, but your post was kind of funny because it makes me wonder which half of the ppl here you represent. maybe you could google up 'sampling bias' to better understand the differences in the 2 populations. steam caters to casuals and is a wide sampling of fickle gamers who get steam sales paraded in front of them on a regular basis, while ppl who tracked down this site out of interest in the game are most likely much more predisposed to liking it than a random fps'er. I've d/l'd and gifted several cheap sale games that I never even got around to playing. how often does someone stop by a buddy's place, fire up the x-box, crack a couple beers, and spend their saturday theorycrafting 100 point builds? now how often do they waste a day playing some fps or squad type game? or fucking mario karts? and while it's true they boiled off half the steam release player base in a casual exodus the first 6 weeks, they currently still have about as many steam babies as they had a month ago. |
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Okay I'm assuming all of you passed highschool or at least most of it and can understand basic line graph chart.
This may blow many of you guys minds because you didn't take statistics but you also have to understand the MEANING behind the chart and how it applies to the whole to the question to are asking. If the question is "is PoE" losing playerbase quite quickly, then to have to think about where the chart is from and the environmental factors behind the chart. Because PoE already existed as a game with a playerbase, the steam chart doesn't not record the player base before the game was released on steam. As a new free game on steam many people played it, tricking down to an average of 15k+ players or whatever. Because PoE already existed as a game with a player base, their PLAYER COUNT has increased by 15k+. PoE did not LOSE 15k+ players because simply they never had the players to begin with, the only number that matters is that their average CONSTANT players that play are keeping the same or slowly increasing. To tell the current health of the game we need a chart of the game from open beta all the way to the steam release, with the steam release numbers added in. My god so many intellectuals here. Like literally can't even explain how using the steam chart to say PoE playerbase is dropping is incorrect properly. Последняя редакция: RagnarokChu#4426. Время: 7 янв. 2014 г., 14:56:33
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" becaise most people I know who use steam have a huge back log of of unplayed games to try out. a lot of people that use steam devote a lot of hours to gaming so they know what theey are looking for in a game and if a game doesnt live up to expectations off the get go they will just move to the next game. also many of the adult players that picked up the game for nostalgia after d3 failed have no interest in steam games so have no reason to use steam. |
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" Not really. " I do think the steam chart is more or less meaningless, though. I would expect (or, at least, it is plausible) that when the game was released on steam, some existing players migrated to steam, and many new players decided to check out the game on steam. Past that point, the community is split (between steam and non-steam). There's no reason to expect the steam-player retention rate to be representative of the non-steam retention rate. EDIT: " ding ding ding IGN: SplitEpimorphism Последняя редакция: syrioforel#7028. Время: 7 янв. 2014 г., 14:59:14
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" eeem.. are you saying that just because someone uses steam hes a casual gamer, and so more likely to leave the game because hes not that hardcore? not the fact that about 90% games or so these days go trough steam.. id say just about everyone has steam on their pc that own at least buy 3 or more pc games a year.. therefore why wouldnt they have path of exile in their library? makes no sense.. its very likely that the vast vast majority who actually plays path of exile just add the game to their steam library.. because why not? |
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" ?? So your logic is that every steam player is a new player, and adds to the population. I'll let you in on a secret Mr. Intellectual. I started using steam to play POE after release. I'm sure a lot of people did the same. Despite the few people that seem stuck in 2005 when steam was awful, a lot of people enjoy the convenience of steam. The fact is, from release, the population of POE has dropped dramatically. Let's say there were 20,000 beta players. Okay, steam releases, adds 35,000 to that number. 55k. Now assuming EVERY BETA player is still playing AND doesn't play on steam (which is insane!) the number is now around 32k. Even with the most positive spin on the numbers, that's a huge number of people to stop playing since release. Who knows, maybe 100 thousand people were playing closed beta and those 100 thousand are still playing (without steam of course). |
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