At what level will my gems hit lvl 20?

Seems like scaling is off I started with EK knives at player level 4 and now im player lvl 83 and EK gem is still only 18. Do I need to make lvl 100 to have gems be level 20?

Your gems level up independently of you. They gain a fraction of XP from monsters but not penalized by your level like you are. Around gem lv15 it starts to get a lot slower for them than you...but they will continue to level up. :)

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Aim_Deep написал:

Seems like scaling is off I started with EK knives at player level 4 and now im player lvl 83 and EK gem is still only 18. Do I need to make lvl 100 to have gems be level 20?

Around 85-86 maybe? (if you play right through) Could be earlier depending on if you die a bunch I guess. (or I could be remembering wrong as well)

Once you are up there it goes much, much quicker (on your next set of gems ie) because you're grinding all high exp high lvl content instead of spending your first 80 levels doing low level content.

(and it works because gems do not take a level penalty to their exp)

That is the reason I normally stop playing my characters at level 80 or so. It starts taking forever to gain a gem level so there is little to no gain from leveling.

Jake my clan mates said 84-85 no way I see that as possible. I'm almost 84 now and gems is only halfway to 19

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timtwins написал:

That is the reason I normally stop playing my characters at level 80 or so. It starts taking forever to gain a gem level so there is little to no gain from leveling.

Yup they need to accelerate this. End game is 85ish now. Not rewarding enough to keep playing IMO when levels and gem levels dont come.

If you want to level your gem quickly then speedrun corrupted areas or just do fun fast maps like mountain ledge. They get no XP penalty.

85 is typical. 87-90 happens if you're really efficient and only do maps that give high 80%+ XP.

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kasub написал:

If you want to level your gem quickly then speedrun corrupted areas or just do fun fast maps like mountain ledge. They get no XP penalty.

85 is typical. 87-90 happens if you're really efficient and only do maps that give high 80%+ XP.

Don't the gems get way more exp/time by doing higher level maps? Like I can do 75 no prob now. So I would think corrupted areas which are like low monster level wouldnt give much exp to gem?

The important thing to understand here is that running lower-level areas carries an XP penalty, but that penalty only applies to your character level, not your gems. Also, death carries a penalty for your character, but leaves your gems alone.

If you managed to suffer zero XP penalty of any kind, your gems would hit 20 around level 94. In practice, this never happens; my Ambush character is level 87 and I've got a few gems at 20 and several at 19.75 or so. Your mileage may vary.

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ScrotieMcB написал:

The important thing to understand here is that running lower-level areas carries an XP penalty, but that penalty only applies to your character level, not your gems. Also, death carries a penalty for your character, but leaves your gems alone.

If you managed to suffer zero XP penalty of any kind, your gems would hit 20 around level 94. In practice, this never happens; my Ambush character is level 87 and I've got a few gems at 20 and several at 19.75 or so. Your mileage may vary.

Yeah but say you kill a goat man at level 66 map someplace the make a 75 map and kill a goatman. Isnt goatman worth more experinace at higher level to gem even? Like say goatman is worh 1000 pts at 66 map wouldnt he be worth say 1500 pts at 75? I dont know just asking.


If monster dont scale thier base pts I'll just do piety runs. I dont care about my level have everything I want out of the skill tree. I just want my gems to level.

Edit: I been reading at the wiki and gems level at 10% us and require 332,069,613 exp for lvl 20. So if we suffer no exp penalty we'd have to be lvl 97 to make a 20 gem because 3,364,828,162 exp is required for lvl 97. Thats crazy. We can use a lvl 20 gem at player lvl 68. Scaling is way off.