Reflect Damage

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Kagari написал:

The more i play, the more issues i have with reflect. Every major patch make our chars more and more powerfull, while defenses start to not get in line with our damage output.

I mostly play elemental builds so i can't count on cwdt + ic combo. ele damage we receive is totally retarded in the game as a whole, and it includes reflect. We don't have the choice but the be at 75% resist on all 3 types, but it feels so useless sometimes.

+max resists got destroyed recently, combined to a real lack of HP nodes on the top right side of the tree. My DPS is not overkill at all, but when i hit a pack with lvl 20 purity of my element + flask and die instantly, i don't see what i can do more.
15% reflect as an aura is most of the time manageable, as we can hit some non reflect mobs on the side to heal, but 18% reflects maps are just not possible for me right now.

Life leech is reserved to physical attacks mostly. The leech gem + vaal pact combo is stupid because it feels mandatory and boring. Spells don't have LoH unless we have Cybil, which is not that impressive without incinerate anyway.

We had several solutions with some friends :

-Straight out nerf reflect value, which is not a really elegant solution.

-Make the reflect act as life leech : damage reflected could cap at a % of our HP pool/sec.

-Give us the possibility to overleech : afaik right now if we hit a 100 HP mob with a 1K hit, we got 15%(or 18% for map mod) reflected back while we can only leech for the value of the mob HP (100 in that case). It wouldn't save us for one shots unless we run VP, but could help.

-Just remove this lazy boring mechanics that bring nothing but cheap difficulty, but that s always a debatable thought.

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Kagari написал:

The more i play, the more issues i have with reflect. Every major patch make our chars more and more powerfull, while defenses start to not get in line with our damage output.

I mostly play elemental builds so i can't count on cwdt + ic combo. ele damage we receive is totally retarded in the game as a whole, and it includes reflect. We don't have the choice but the be at 75% resist on all 3 types, but it feels so useless sometimes.

+max resists got destroyed recently, combined to a real lack of HP nodes on the top right side of the tree. My DPS is not overkill at all, but when i hit a pack with lvl 20 purity of my element + flask and die instantly, i don't see what i can do more.
15% reflect as an aura is most of the time manageable, as we can hit some non reflect mobs on the side to heal, but 18% reflects maps are just not possible for me right now.

Life leech is reserved to physical attacks mostly. The leech gem + vaal pact combo is stupid because it feels mandatory and boring. Spells don't have LoH unless we have Cybil, which is not that impressive without incinerate anyway.

We had several solutions with some friends :

-Straight out nerf reflect value, which is not a really elegant solution.

-Make the reflect act as life leech : damage reflected could cap at a % of our HP pool/sec.

-Give us the possibility to overleech : afaik right now if we hit a 100 HP mob with a 1K hit, we got 15%(or 18% for map mod) reflected back while we can only leech for the value of the mob HP (100 in that case). It wouldn't save us for one shots unless we run VP, but could help.

-Just remove this lazy boring mechanics that bring nothing but cheap difficulty, but that s always a debatable thought.

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mark1030 написал:

GGG doesn't keep making you more powerful. They do keep allowing you to make yourself more powerful. Reflect is the only thing keeping every character from going 100% DPS with 0% defenses.

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mark1030 написал:

They've already nerfed the monster auras from 18% to 15% to now 14% in 1.2.0. As for the elemental, are you really unable to survive 14% reflected mitigated by 75% (or more with aura and/or flasks) resistance? That's only 3.5% of your damage reflected if you have 75% resistance. Seriously? You aren't able to build with enough life/es to handle only 3.5% of your damage output?

Physical is a little harder since the armour formula makes mitigation less with bigger hits, but you also have other tools at your disposal. Endurance Charges mitigate and Immortal Call makes you immune to physical reflect.

GGG doesn't keep making you more powerful. They do keep allowing you to make yourself more powerful. Reflect is the only thing keeping every character from going 100% DPS with 0% defenses.

I guess I just don't understand why using your brain while playing is such a hardship. Calling it a cheap difficulty mechanic when it can be handled by playing smart is a bit disingenuous. The game does not need to be dumbed down to accommodate people too lazy to have to think about what they're doing.

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mark1030 написал:

They've already nerfed the monster auras from 18% to 15% to now 14% in 1.2.0. As for the elemental, are you really unable to survive 14% reflected mitigated by 75% (or more with aura and/or flasks) resistance? That's only 3.5% of your damage reflected if you have 75% resistance. Seriously? You aren't able to build with enough life/es to handle only 3.5% of your damage output?

Physical is a little harder since the armour formula makes mitigation less with bigger hits, but you also have other tools at your disposal. Endurance Charges mitigate and Immortal Call makes you immune to physical reflect.

GGG doesn't keep making you more powerful. They do keep allowing you to make yourself more powerful. Reflect is the only thing keeping every character from going 100% DPS with 0% defenses.

I guess I just don't understand why using your brain while playing is such a hardship. Calling it a cheap difficulty mechanic when it can be handled by playing smart is a bit disingenuous. The game does not need to be dumbed down to accommodate people too lazy to have to think about what they're doing.