[2.3] Explosive Arrow Build - Uber viable - 100 hc/sc proof - Scion, Witch, Duelist, Mara versions

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facelessman122 написал:

Yeah I like how easy it is to swap out of rt to play around with eo later. Just need to decide if that fortify is really worth it or some scion beserker/raider or pathfinder (in hc).

Fortify is insane for hc (25% reduced dmg with the buffs of the champion class). If that is worth it for u, u'll have to decide, ill pick scion.

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GrindmasterFlash написал:

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IamPeyter написал:

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GrindmasterFlash написал:

playing around with EA build the last couple of days. ultimate dps version should be berserker, as there was a deep diskussion about it on reddit. i however prefer duelist champion for that fortify. combined with acro and vaal pact. i know there isnt much dmg on the tree but i dont think its needed for EA. however VP+acro+fortify+(Coil?)+~240%life should make the build immortal.

http://poeurl.com/xDG

Acro makes ur block (Quiver + Flask) alot worse.
Vaal pact drops 1450 possible life/regen per sec.
Coil gives less surviability in general than a Kaoms and also less damage.

And for being on the right side of the tree u would, as u already, stated drop alot of dmg

Thats alot of sacirifices for very little beneft, this build is already immortal for a good player.

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good point, but isnt EA without vaal pact rippy vs reflect? my intention about acro was dropping rearguard and rumis, and never underestimate LC, mitigation is always nice, i never feel comfy with pure life builds...

Is the last "quote" ur comment? I assume it is so:
I dont underestimate LC, its amazing but so is Kaoms, both with a downside ofc. Reflect got nerfed in the last patches and it isnt bad anymore, u'll find alot of posts about it in the last 4-6 pages. I wouldnt swap out Rearguard and rumi's atleast with the current items before ascendancy they are way to good in comparison

Such a difficult choice between Duelist or Scion (I don't think zerker is needed). I do play SC instead of HC.

Fort + movespeed + dmg VS Life leech + frenzy charges + gem socket

Btw why don't you go into the Templar area from the top in your builds? You'd gain 10 int and loose 10 str.

How good is frenzy with 2.2 and blood dance? Is it still worth that much? Blood dance would add allot of value when going duelist. I wonder if you can go duelist without needing life leech (fort, high natural life regen, blood dance, potion..).

If the life leech gem \ frenzy gain on kill is not needed I might go this:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAmy1hmF857FxiF4rwhJQslMSCiXGwq3vUvqdlTXXLvTa3tupiR36NfoTZQzEB3NrBwzN343TtLlNaGqluBS3Tb8AaeWh4DW87wQS18l8_bqo1khQgSsj-j9i97w5N4_4Kple3PvJFOuFBh4PM-eg8LWh0gseDX8au2mIo-gxfC2HE9hhWmK0cp69scqkn7VOlaPL3MqyqBg7wH-oYfNlZ89R8ogB2rPjrGjhyDwn2BLPPfrvt890UcZBVlG9xhWaewGaRzmhlDjzZfCcvZlRXKfrSPAXfv4IHRtcWb5_f73zbTySq42qaO-DDNumCmyW8GmydrgN1kStYd18E

Not too much %life compared to some of the builds I saw but it seems very nice allround.

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IamPeyter написал:

The Links
Ascendancy
6L - If Scion or berserker:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Empower lvl 4 > Slower Projectiles - Less duration - Increased area of effect \ Chance to ignite \ Slower projectiles

Lets think about the starting of the league

When you have a five link would it be:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Less duration?

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Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Increased Area of effect?

OR other setup?

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Phobozz написал:

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IamPeyter написал:

The Links
Ascendancy
6L - If Scion or berserker:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Empower lvl 4 > Slower Projectiles - Less duration - Increased area of effect \ Chance to ignite \ Slower projectiles

Lets think about the starting of the league

When you have a five link would it be:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Less duration?

OR

Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Increased Area of effect?

OR other setup?

Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles or chance to ignite - Less duration

Will be my choice will be my choice.

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IamPeyter написал:

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Phobozz написал:

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IamPeyter написал:

The Links
Ascendancy
6L - If Scion or berserker:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Empower lvl 4 > Slower Projectiles - Less duration - Increased area of effect \ Chance to ignite \ Slower projectiles

Lets think about the starting of the league

When you have a five link would it be:
Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Less duration?

OR

Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles - Increased Area of effect?

OR other setup?

Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - Slower Projectiles or chance to ignite - Less duration

Will be my choice will be my choice.

tbh i would do Explosive Arrow - Greater multiple projectiles - Fire penetration - elemental focus - Less duration unless u invest in chance to ignite and burning dmg, but imho ignite is more usefull against bosses where u could switch out the gem

I was thinking of overload, you need to sacrifice some life ( i mean it can be really hurting one) 3 extra passive points till overload and u ll need some acc from tree too (in templar and maru area) which costs around 4 extra passive points too. Also this means u need crt chance on your rings and amulet along with some acc too.. Its really end game choice if you ve really good chunck of money. And one more thing, with investing chance to ignite on tree celestial punishment, on jewels ( like life, one damage mod and chance to ignite) in your 6 link set up added chance to ignite ( ea-gmp-fire pen-less duration-chance to ignite-slower pro or lvl4 empower if u are lucky) and one more thing as second choice of subclass maybe it can be inquisitor which gives you %20 inc ele damage, and %120 inc crt chance against ignited enemies which can solve your crt problem especially agianst hard mobs ( you ll one shot white ones anyway)

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GrindmasterFlash написал:

good point, but isnt EA without vaal pact rippy vs reflect? my intention about acro was dropping rearguard and rumis, and never underestimate LC, mitigation is always nice, i never feel comfy with pure life builds...

If you die from reflect with this build you're doing something terribly wrong.

I've even tried reflect maps but they're tedious and not really worth it.

This is the tree that maybe can work when you want to change your rt to overload. I ve spent 112 points so with rest of points when u get lvl you can go more life. I cut off life nodes and resistance ones in maru area. %49 chance to ignite only from 20/20 gem also 10% inc burning damage, 10% from tree and 3% chance to ignite per jewel. I ve 5 jewel sockets with this set up so thats a lot of chance to ignite. Also you ve 25% inc damage against ignited enemies too which is a nice add in terms of damage. I ll stick around with regular ea build in early league and then maybe i can give this a try.

Btw maybe chance to ignite can work differently so i could make some calculation mistakes above.

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IamPeyter написал:

Ascendancy Classes and passives trees

3 Good options for this build:

Allrounder, the Scion Ascendant

A must pick is the berserker, this will allow us to drop the life leech gem and use less duration for a smoother gameplay and more dmg.

After the berserker the other options are non essential, meaning u can choose whatever u feel like it will help u the most, my favourite is the Raider for the 40 dex (OH YES), ability to drop Blood dance boots together with the high buff in movement and attack speed which will be nuts in combination with devoto's.


PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAA8pc7KNhNm10DlpSgqJpuPdpie8O-gGBDaHQYVoMJ-eiCx0GHKPq3PpituJP-CoPMHNzyRdi9PC3r7o8aOuE1koNfxq6nCJrgplf-jwxfC2HE9p2uRZ1N4xynr2xyqSftGmwDdVNSU6Vo8vcyrKoGDjbpkSvwH-oYfNlZ89R8JKpYd6IAdqz46xo4cg8J9hZvXwQEs89-u-3z3RRxkFWUb3GF42rAZq2Nkc5oZQ482XwnL2ZUeuY8Bd-_OlKCB2P9n9_vfNtPvJ_yQUbXmjvgwxiR_EvSIYKbJbwUTWoeHOfyLxo-Xz_2SBQgjM_EWO8OPfxQR1hj

The Dmg, Marauder Berserker

The Berserker grants us an enormous amount of dmg for an ok drawback.

while also giving us the freedom to drop the lifeleech gem for less duration


PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree. Note: The extra jewels in comparison to scion were added as placeholder until i can think of a better use of those passive points)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38jM_EWPZIXz8aPhQg8i_vDhznUEdqHtIh8kGCB9l8FHEOPPjr3786Urvt893qGNtPvJ-Rzmhl9zJ2rODDGJH8S3KpfNnPfiW8FE3E9qyqrY3GriftWfM8LQxfC2EGDho4cg-DX4PMHKevbNR8kFWUb3GFtz5TpWjyCfYnL2ZUeuZBh_4K8B9j_fno8kXYvaIARtdodILHOuE1kgSz2mIo-qZXtfL-j8BmGFaYrbiTTeNuqngNPAUc3ErIwBqf3-986-6PGlpSbzuaO6cImuComoKbna5FnXvDGmwDdVNSNumRKySqWHcWb18E42qJ2GhY15Y=

The Defense, Duelist Champion

THE HC class, we'll suffer alot in dmg when picking this class for obvious reasons but in exchange we get alot of survivability through a buffed Fortify

While still getting some damage and movementspeed for u and ur party.



PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree. Note: The extra jewels in comparison to scion were added as placeholder until i can think of a better use of those passive points)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAmy1fOYrwxIKwq76nZU29Nkd-hNkB3HfjqW7AGnloeA1vO8EEtfJfP26qNZIUIErI_o_Yve8OWlJN4_4KUEeomqZXtz7yRXvDOuFBh4PM-eg8LWh0gseDX8au2mIo-gxfC2HE9hhWmK24kxynr2xyqSftHNxTpWjy9zKsqgYO6-6PGvAf6hh82Vnz1HynCJrgogB2rPjrGjhyDwn2na5FnQSzz3677fPdFHGQVZRvcYUabAN1U1LAZq2Nkc5oZQ482XwnL2ZUeuY26ZErPAXfvzpSggdj_SSqWHef3-9820-8n_JBRtcWb18EmjvgwxiR_EvjaoKbJbwUTQ==

What about Chieftain ?
Life reg,10% penetration,35% inc. dmg on burning (60% with celestial punishment), 1% fire leach and 30% increase fire dmg.

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Irsk_ написал:

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IamPeyter написал:

Ascendancy Classes and passives trees

3 Good options for this build:

Allrounder, the Scion Ascendant

A must pick is the berserker, this will allow us to drop the life leech gem and use less duration for a smoother gameplay and more dmg.

After the berserker the other options are non essential, meaning u can choose whatever u feel like it will help u the most, my favourite is the Raider for the 40 dex (OH YES), ability to drop Blood dance boots together with the high buff in movement and attack speed which will be nuts in combination with devoto's.


PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAA8pc7KNhNm10DlpSgqJpuPdpie8O-gGBDaHQYVoMJ-eiCx0GHKPq3PpituJP-CoPMHNzyRdi9PC3r7o8aOuE1koNfxq6nCJrgplf-jwxfC2HE9p2uRZ1N4xynr2xyqSftGmwDdVNSU6Vo8vcyrKoGDjbpkSvwH-oYfNlZ89R8JKpYd6IAdqz46xo4cg8J9hZvXwQEs89-u-3z3RRxkFWUb3GF42rAZq2Nkc5oZQ482XwnL2ZUeuY8Bd-_OlKCB2P9n9_vfNtPvJ_yQUbXmjvgwxiR_EvSIYKbJbwUTWoeHOfyLxo-Xz_2SBQgjM_EWO8OPfxQR1hj

The Dmg, Marauder Berserker

The Berserker grants us an enormous amount of dmg for an ok drawback.

while also giving us the freedom to drop the lifeleech gem for less duration


PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree. Note: The extra jewels in comparison to scion were added as placeholder until i can think of a better use of those passive points)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38jM_EWPZIXz8aPhQg8i_vDhznUEdqHtIh8kGCB9l8FHEOPPjr3786Urvt893qGNtPvJ-Rzmhl9zJ2rODDGJH8S3KpfNnPfiW8FE3E9qyqrY3GriftWfM8LQxfC2EGDho4cg-DX4PMHKevbNR8kFWUb3GFtz5TpWjyCfYnL2ZUeuZBh_4K8B9j_fno8kXYvaIARtdodILHOuE1kgSz2mIo-qZXtfL-j8BmGFaYrbiTTeNuqngNPAUc3ErIwBqf3-986-6PGlpSbzuaO6cImuComoKbna5FnXvDGmwDdVNSNumRKySqWHcWb18E42qJ2GhY15Y=

The Defense, Duelist Champion

THE HC class, we'll suffer alot in dmg when picking this class for obvious reasons but in exchange we get alot of survivability through a buffed Fortify

While still getting some damage and movementspeed for u and ur party.



PASSIVE TREE (still subject to change, will be adjusted with feedback and ascenandcy information as the league goes on, Elemental Overload is worth trying but without tests i wont allocate it in the build thread tree. Note: The extra jewels in comparison to scion were added as placeholder until i can think of a better use of those passive points)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAmy1fOYrwxIKwq76nZU29Nkd-hNkB3HfjqW7AGnloeA1vO8EEtfJfP26qNZIUIErI_o_Yve8OWlJN4_4KUEeomqZXtz7yRXvDOuFBh4PM-eg8LWh0gseDX8au2mIo-gxfC2HE9hhWmK24kxynr2xyqSftHNxTpWjy9zKsqgYO6-6PGvAf6hh82Vnz1HynCJrgogB2rPjrGjhyDwn2na5FnQSzz3677fPdFHGQVZRvcYUabAN1U1LAZq2Nkc5oZQ482XwnL2ZUeuY26ZErPAXfvzpSggdj_SSqWHef3-9820-8n_JBRtcWb18EmjvgwxiR_EvjaoKbJbwUTQ==

What about Chieftain ?
Life reg,10% penetration,35% inc. dmg on burning (60% with celestial punishment), 1% fire leach and 30% increase fire dmg.

If you go Chieftain you can't use Elemental Equilibrium since 20% of your physical damage is converted to fire.