New troll weapon WOOOO

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Geisalt написал:

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davinci663 написал:

Go shadow>crit ascendancy>get crit multi from right side of tree>get 5power charges>go es
The point of that weapon is to not waste points on way towards faraway nodes when u can grab nearly any node for dmg

but you could achieve the same thing with a normal rare GG dagger and less increased... Less crit on the stuff and less... Less everything?

If anyone's expecting a 1h Disfavour equivalent, this isn't it, probably closer to Doomsower. However, it's an ultimate entry level endgame weapon until you can afford something better - all for one and one for all, eh? All bonuses for one weapon and one weapon for all skills.
And if you go for exploiting its quirk it can even be fun.

One thing I don't like about it is the final fantasy design.

i'm trying to reach the max amount of inc. per point spent with crit and accuracy to scale abyssus properly but the build becomes glasscannon, without block and all but atleast i give an indicator of the power of this unique.

710% increased

115% AS

242 crit chance

25% crit mult

221% accuracy. (WTF LOL, hi 95% chance to hit with one 350 accuracy item)

164 % life


Let's say that the sword has q20 and 130/250 damage so 190 avg damage,

with abyssus 50 avg, 8 avg damage ring *2, 15 avg damage amulet, 15 meginord's girdle, 30 great old one

316 avg damage * 8.1 = 2560 damage

as: 1.3 * 2.15 * 2560 = 2.795 attack speed and 7155 dps without mults and crit

17.1 crit chance

2.625 crit mult with abyssus

... in my calculations it only reachs 60K dps ice crash, it seems a bit low.

so yeah, i think the only way to use this sword is to make a decent tanky build with 20-30K dps



Edit, thoses numbers are achieved with a 5L, 86K is doable with a 6L

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Geisalt написал:

i'm trying to reach the max amount of inc. per point spent with crit and accuracy to scale abyssus properly but the build becomes glasscannon, without block and all but atleast i give an indicator of the power of this unique.

710% increased

115% AS

242 crit chance

25% crit mult

221% accuracy. (WTF LOL, hi 95% chance to hit with one 350 accuracy item)

164 % life


Let's say that the sword has q20 and 130/250 damage so 190 avg damage,

with abyssus 50 avg, 8 avg damage ring *2, 15 avg damage amulet, 15 meginord's girdle, 30 great old one

316 avg damage * 8.1 = 2560 damage

as: 1.3 * 2.15 * 2560 = 2.795 attack speed and 7155 dps without mults and crit

17.1 crit chance

2.625 crit mult with abyssus

... in my calculations it only reachs 60K dps ice crash, it seems a bit low.

so yeah, i think the only way to use this sword is to make a decent tanky build with 20-30K dps

Those are far lower numbers then I expected.

Ah yes, so I am not the only one who thought that new sword looked very similar to Tidus' legendary weapon "Caladbolg" from FFX. ^_^ And what's wrong with the design...not like the devs didn't use the Sphere Grid for their passive tree design/idea? :P :P

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Nephalim написал:

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Geisalt написал:

i'm trying to reach the max amount of inc. per point spent with crit and accuracy to scale abyssus properly but the build becomes glasscannon, without block and all but atleast i give an indicator of the power of this unique.

710% increased

115% AS

242 crit chance

25% crit mult

221% accuracy. (WTF LOL, hi 95% chance to hit with one 350 accuracy item)

164 % life


Let's say that the sword has q20 and 130/250 damage so 190 avg damage,

with abyssus 50 avg, 8 avg damage ring *2, 15 avg damage amulet, 15 meginord's girdle, 30 great old one

316 avg damage * 8.1 = 2560 damage

as: 1.3 * 2.15 * 2560 = 2.795 attack speed and 7155 dps without mults and crit

17.1 crit chance

2.625 crit mult with abyssus

... in my calculations it only reachs 60K dps ice crash, it seems a bit low.

so yeah, i think the only way to use this sword is to make a decent tanky build with 20-30K dps

Those are far lower numbers then I expected.

http://poedb.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38jM_2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FGXeSgqi09nm0F0JJv3TXYrgIon7cT2r6cczitQDc3-VHKp9zLqGFHmd1M7O57FtC8hNEE_dqzPfvjrZFJOMhfhJvgTTMGj4mEwd1n-891oZT0PFPaGO69sNI5r2Wjy8B-iAASzwGbBBHloqW7AGngNbzu18jWS2L3-j03jplc64fJF_gp34wHchNlHfr02ZU2-p3JsbEYyCRm0LYMVIN0N4JVW6AhJstyfgpJ93COYb-XPP_zoZgixf-Mx-z0-FHEbqhDw8lqBOgMAfppjF9l8ggfccw==

around 60K dps ice crash is the tooltip number with a 5L & melee phys, conc effect, phys to light, wed



It's not BAD, but it's done with a loooooooot of increased in the tree, without defensive mechanics and 164% inc. hp

added fire in the link would add a good amount of dps, charges too. Maybe we could reach 90K? maybe more with hatred and herald of ash? well, it's not insane, it's a legit weapon, better than pillar of the caged god, but it looks like a noob trap to me and facebreaker is still better.

Just to check regarding Rebuke of the Vaal:
Hasn't it always been a troll weapon, even when there weren't any other uniques on that base?

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Rusery написал:

Could be an interesting Jack of all trades type build... something a lot of people just don't like.

What? I love jack-of-all trades type build... And I think that's what makes this Unique the most interesting, the ability to combine multiple small utilities of all Weapon types.

There's scope for random junk jewels to become bis melee jewels. That's got to be worth something.

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ladish написал:

There's scope for random junk jewels to become bis melee jewels. That's got to be worth something.

Oh right, can't believe I didn't realize that.. It allows you to get purely physical Jewels and many different possible choices.. Truly a budget Weapon.

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ladish написал:

There's scope for random junk jewels to become bis melee jewels. That's got to be worth something.

Yet another great point. :D Take any jewel with melee damage modifier - you can use it. ~50k dps looks GREAT given how much you have to invest, and what you need to have for that kind of dps.