[2.2] 100% chaos ICE TRAPPER - UBER down (T15 Abyss Double Boss fight in 10 sec!!)

but i tot they already fix it on previous patch

2.2.2 Fixed a bug with the "increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently" Enchantment where it only counted critical strikes done by the main hand weapon.

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hankinsohl написал:

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Jocuro написал:

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hankinsohl написал:

The enchant is nice but is better for non-crit build variants using Elemental Overload; these variants don't have high crit chance and want to crit so that EO kicks in.

The "if you haven't crit recently" means if you haven't crit in the last 6 seconds.

I'm pretty sure that each of the 4 traps in our cluster has its crit chance rolled separately. And we throw lots of clusters. So with a crit variant of this build, you'll almost never be in the state of not having crit in the last 6 seconds unless you're starting off an encounter after a 6-second hiatus from combat.

trap don't count as YOUR crit so you have allways free 90%

Good catch. They do currently boost your crit chance permanently - wonder if this is a bug.

It's not a bug thats how GGG implemented Totems and Traps. They are separate beings influenced by your stats.

The same reason why life leech linked to those gems applies either to a totem or a trap.

It won't be fixed because there is nothing to fix. I would suggest getting a nice pair of boots with that enchantment because it will be most likely nerfed...

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Also to EO, as i probably have the best non-crit trapper build in the game i can reply that "you don't really care about this enchantment while using EO, but its nice to have once the traps get nerfed".

Why its not a must have for non-crits:
- because almost any non crit will most likely use orb of storm linked with increased critical strike chance to have reliable source of ZO.

Why it is NICE to have:
because you can drop ICS for 1 more gem slot - there are too many good to have 1 slot gems currently in the game :/

Here's a version I am going to try. Doesn't stack crit (I don't need to deal 60k dps :P) and picks up more life nodes along with dual curse for Enfeeble+Temp chains blasphemy.

Any suggestions on how I can squeeze clarity in? I calculated my 5 link Icetrap will cost about 150-160m. I think i'll only have about 60 or so mana left after clarity+enfeeble+temp chains. Or do think that 30% unreserved + 80% mana regen is enough to sustain an ice trap without a mana potion? I really don't want to use a mana pot :P

Thanks.

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mrpetrov написал:

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eragon1111 написал:

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Zaxby написал:

Apologies if this has been covered:

The labyrinth boot enchants that increase crit chance if YOU have not crit recently: how does this interact with traps?

And thats a very good question :D ! If traps dont count as "your" crit but separate being, but your critchance applies to traps. Very important thing to investigate.

EDIT. Well seems like the answer is that you have FREE 90% crit chance from boots with this enchantment.

Correct and tested. Basically, this enchantment on boots is a *must have* for this build. Permanent 90% increased crit chance is nothing to sneeze at! Boots are currently available for around 15c, so get them before they all get sucked up.

I wouldn't even try to buy those. On average it would take 5-10 runs to get them. 7+% chance is like heaven to earth compared to 0.28% for helmet enchant...

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Edzilla написал:

Here's a version I am going to try. Doesn't stack crit (I don't need to deal 60k dps :P) and picks up more life nodes along with dual curse for Enfeeble+Temp chains blasphemy.

Any suggestions on how I can squeeze clarity in? I calculated my 5 link Icetrap will cost about 150-160m. I think i'll only have about 60 or so mana left after clarity+enfeeble+temp chains. Or do think that 30% unreserved + 80% mana regen is enough to sustain an ice trap without a mana potion? I really don't want to use a mana pot :P

Thanks.

How the hell is that even possible :D ? Optimal 6l costs around 115 mana ??

I am loving this build!!!

Went from phox ice trapper to poison trapper and then i found this build which i am having tons of fun. Though i need 1 thing, any1 has a lvl 100 tree since i am planing of going to 100 with this char

thanks in advance

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eragon1111 написал:

It's not a bug thats how GGG implemented Totems and Traps. They are separate beings influenced by your stats.

Agreed; it's consistent with how EO works with traps.

Moreover, expect a nerf as you suggest. This enchant is way too good for trap builds (or totem builds for that matter or other builds - I can't think of any - where the crit won't be credited to you. Crit summoner, maybe - if such a thing is viable).

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eragon1111 написал:

I wouldn't even try to buy those. On average it would take 5-10 runs to get them. 7+% chance is like heaven to earth compared to 0.28% for helmet enchant...

There are 15 level 66 boot enchants. Assuming that all are equally likely, you'll have approximately a 6.7% chance to get the enchant each time you take the Merciless Labyrinth boot enchant.

Therefore, for a 50% chance after n runs we have:

(14/15)^n = 1 - 0.5

Solving for n we get approximately 10 runs. Of course your luck may be better or worse than this.

Whether to buy or not...

Assuming that boots with the stats you want and with the enchant are available, the cost of the enchant on these boots equals the cost of the boots with the enchant minus the cost of the same (or similar) boots without the enchant.

Against this, you have the time value of currency. As a first approximation, the time value of the enchant equals the amount of currency you could have raised - for example by magic finding - in the time it would have taken you to run 10 Merciless Labyrinths.

If you could have raised more currency in the time it would take you to run 10 Merciless Labyrinth runs than the cost of the enchant, consider buying the boots without the enchant and making the labyrinth runs. It's a bit more complicated than this, but I think you get the idea.

Whatever you pay for the cost of the enchant, is basically insurance against how much it might cost you to buy boots without the enchant and run more than 10 Labyrinth runs instead.

Or to summarise:

Trade > play (as usual with poe)

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mrpetrov написал:

Or to summarise:

Trade > play (as usual with poe)

Maybe,

But what if you want max life/spell dodge Atziri's Steps with this enchant, or some other boots where the enchant is either not available or is extremely expensive? In such cases, you might be forced into running Labyrinths.

It might also be better to run Labyrinths in other cases.

So it's not exactly clear cut.

As stated in my previous post, it boils down to your time value of currency versus how much you value insurance against bad luck and whether or not the boots you want are even available for sale with this enchant.

Ahem...

QED.

LOL.

You actually do need to make the comparison to decide one way or another in your particular case.