[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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mrutomi написал:
I'm struggling on using arctic armor. When I use arctic armor, my mana goes down to like 250 (which is similar to the mana in the videos), but I'm struggling to play through with this. Whenever I misclick an icestorm (or game lags and I hit nothing with icestorm), I'm basically low on mana. Without arctic armor, I could just spam my icestorm everywhere and if it lags, I just hold down icestorm all around me and everything just dies as I leach back up life.

Anybody else struggle with the playstyle with arctic armor and have advice for me?


Switch to CwC. Replace Spell Echo and CD (or CE) with Scorching Ray and CwC, link those 2 gems (ideally link all 4 blue gems in the staff for extra damage from SR).

Gems: SR - CwC - EF - CE (or CD), LL, FP.

You don't even need Enlighten with CwC. You will have about 100 mana, and SR costs 18. You can spam it at will. No need to color the helmet 3B either. Can just make it BBRG and put AA in it. Makes coloring the body armor easier too. And you get an open socket for an extra gem of your choice: Vaal Disc, LW, Vaal LT, whatever you like to bring.

I'm switching the versions of the build to CwC and updating the guides as time allows. The question of damage upgrade/downgrade remains open, but it's not going to change a lot in either direction. But the improved mobility and new league/player friendliness is totally worth it. I'll keep the old SE version as an option for 'advanced players'.
Последняя редакция: Kelvynn#6607. Время: 30 дек. 2016 г., 17:43:40
I've noticed in some videos that with CwC and SR the first Icestorm has a slight delay - does it gives you any problem? It seems long enough to get killed before starting to leech :/
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Baugoti написал:
Hi,

Loving this build.. about to move onto the shaper, but I have never Done the fight, so probably being overly safe.

Just as a thought, below is my gear, what piece Do you think I should get an upgrade for. (currently looking for boots, so outside of that)

Gear:
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Your gear is already very good, better than mine in the league. You don't need to upgrade anything really. Vendor your Fortify gem + GCP.

Watch my Shaper kill with CwC and do the same. Although if you have never done him before it's probably going to take a few deaths before you get used to it.

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Levirael написал:
I've noticed in some videos that with CwC and SR the first Icestorm has a slight delay - does it gives you any problem? It seems long enough to get killed before starting to leech :/

There is a fixed delay of 0.35 sec that it takes for CwC to trigger. You get used to it very quickly. It's a lot less clunky than stopping for 0.7 sec to double-cast with SE. And the best part is that you can stop and move at any time. With SE you are frozen for that 0.7 sec and can't do anything. With SR-CwC you are completely free to move. It's a big deal in fights like Uber Atziri when you see her cast the giant twin flameblasts and need to move fast.
Последняя редакция: Kelvynn#6607. Время: 30 дек. 2016 г., 17:56:49
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Kelvynn написал:

There is a fixed delay of 0.35 sec that it takes for CwC to trigger. You get used to it very quickly. It's a lot less clunky than stopping for 0.7 sec to double-cast with SE. And the best part is that you can stop and move at any time. With SE you are frozen for that 0.7 sec and can't do anything. With SR-CwC you are completely free to move. It's a big deal in fights like Uber Atziri when you see her cast the giant twin flameblasts and need to move fast.



while I agree that there are instances where being locked in place for 0.6-0.7 seconds is bad, I gotta disagree with the "less clunky" part. today I leveled a HoWA BF char and decided to level him as WI (since the tree gets so much int...)

there, I tried out leveling with SR + CWC and didnt like it at all. first, that 0.35s delay before I get my first icestorm coming is annoying and dangerous. second, having to press down the button for "prolonged" periods of time instead of tapping it once is really tedious. and third, I find it harder to aim with SR.

so yes, it is technically clearly the superior way of leveling, but it's not for me - and now that I've tested it myself, I'm more confident than ever that selfcast is the superior endgame option on elementalist and inquisitor.
Последняя редакция: Black_Gun#7476. Время: 30 дек. 2016 г., 23:07:20
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Black_Gun написал:
there, I tried out leveling with SR + CWC and didnt like it at all. first, that 0.35s delay before I get my first icestorm coming is annoying and dangerous. second, having to press down the button for "prolonged" periods of time instead of tapping it once is really tedious. and third, I find it harder to aim with SR.

so yes, it is technically clearly the superior way of leveling, but it's not for me - and now that I've tested it myself, I'm more confident than ever that selfcast is the superior endgame option on elementalist and inquisitor.

It takes maybe 1 day to get used to pressing down the key for 0.35 sec instead of tapping it. Not to mention that tapping isn't 100% reliable anyway, to make sure that Icestorm is cast you need to press it down for a short time.

You don't need to aim with SR. Icestorm is cast at the cursor, it doesn't matter where the beam is.
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Kelvynn написал:
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mrutomi написал:
I'm struggling on using arctic armor. When I use arctic armor, my mana goes down to like 250 (which is similar to the mana in the videos), but I'm struggling to play through with this. Whenever I misclick an icestorm (or game lags and I hit nothing with icestorm), I'm basically low on mana. Without arctic armor, I could just spam my icestorm everywhere and if it lags, I just hold down icestorm all around me and everything just dies as I leach back up life.

Anybody else struggle with the playstyle with arctic armor and have advice for me?


Switch to CwC. Replace Spell Echo and CD (or CE) with Scorching Ray and CwC, link those 2 gems (ideally link all 4 blue gems in the staff for extra damage from SR).

Gems: SR - CwC - EF - CE (or CD), LL, FP.

You don't even need Enlighten with CwC. You will have about 100 mana, and SR costs 18. You can spam it at will. No need to color the helmet 3B either. Can just make it BBRG and put AA in it. Makes coloring the body armor easier too. And you get an open socket for an extra gem of your choice: Vaal Disc, LW, Vaal LT, whatever you like to bring.

I'm switching the versions of the build to CwC and updating the guides as time allows. The question of damage upgrade/downgrade remains open, but it's not going to change a lot in either direction. But the improved mobility and new league/player friendliness is totally worth it. I'll keep the old SE version as an option for 'advanced players'.


ohh okay. What would you change about the skill tree? i'm up to level 87 with this build, so I might need to respec if I change to CWC. Also, does CE give more damage or is it the same as CD? I just made the switch on my character, but haven't respecced any points yet.

As for gear, what would you think I should switch out? Thanks!

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Последняя редакция: mrutomi#6904. Время: 31 дек. 2016 г., 03:18:12
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mrutomi написал:
ohh okay. What would you change about the skill tree? i'm up to level 87 with this build, so I might need to respec if I change to CWC. Also, does CE give more damage or is it the same as CD? I just made the switch on my character, but haven't respecced any points yet.

As for gear, what would you think I should switch out? Thanks!

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Get a Crystal Belt with Int and maybe some more ES on the boots?
Hi Guys :)

i wish happy new year to everyone:))
i'm lvl 91 and finished all (unique maps not included) <16 maps.

and i have this body armor:


can i craft a better one from this with meta crafting mods or sg? maybe 850+ ES or maybe better to sell and buy another with better ES stat? It have one open suffix and prefix too on that.
I think, the body armor slot can gives me the most ES bonus.. i Have 1500 INT, 8K ES with disc. and 7,6K dmg only with golems up in HO.

And Here is my other hear slots, pls fell free to give an advice :)
Последняя редакция: AdamK#6616. Время: 31 дек. 2016 г., 14:39:08
How much ES should I have to do low tier maps? my ES is extremely low for lvl 70, 5008 with disc. I can't get the unique belt or helm yet because I can't give up the res. The only pieces I can upgrade are my gloves and shoes but even minuscule upgrades are going to cost me 20-40 chaos. I'm in HC and I started with 30c.

I must be missing some huge game mechanic that would allow anyone to use this as a league starter. A chest with more than 600 ES is minimum 30c and I'm still saving for astra as well. Either I'm gonna be in dried lake until 90 hoping for drops or I'm gonna have to go run RF totems or something until I can fund this. Sucks cuz I'm having a blast with this.
Последняя редакция: Syche22#7096. Время: 31 дек. 2016 г., 15:54:13
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AdamK написал:
Hi Guys :)

i wish happy new year to everyone:))
i'm lvl 91 and finished all (unique maps not included) <16 maps.

and i have this body armor:


can i craft a better one from this with meta crafting mods or sg? maybe 850+ ES or maybe better to sell and buy another with better ES stat? It have one open suffix and prefix too on that.
I think, the body armor slot can gives me the most ES bonus.. i Have 1500 INT, 8K ES with disc. and 7,6K dmg only with golems up in HO.

And Here is my other hear slots, pls fell free to give an advice :)


Since it's a 6L I think it's better to sell it and buy another one with similar or more ES but with 40+ Int. Also though your gloves and boots have high ES both have low Int too.

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