[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

tried minotaur he whooped my ass I gues 5.8k es isn't enough lol and I guess cwdt/ic set it really is needed

also I think being a serker sucks I'm gonna assume witch is much better

Is Witch still the best/most balanced choice?

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gradinarcho написал:

tried minotaur he whooped my ass I gues 5.8k es isn't enough lol and I guess cwdt/ic set it really is needed

also I think being a serker sucks I'm gonna assume witch is much better

Berserker version does not suck. That huge leech is not to be underestimated, nor is the free stun immunity. And the 40% more damage is, well, also huge. The little boosts to movement speed and attack speed also really help with quality of life too.

You've also got a few more free skill points if you go Berserker (at least early on) since you don't need to path down to Unwavering Stance. And thanks to Brute Force, those early points at the Marauder start mostly work in your favor (and are damned nice to have before you make the switch to CI/WI at 39).

Biggest suck for the class was getting blue skill gems, and that was basically solved with the changes to Siosa in the Library in 2.6.

And did I mention that huge leech?

TL;DR: Witch version isn't much better. It's just a bit different, and at the late end-game, Witch might even be worse in some situations. And with the Berzerker, you have the option to drop the Leech gem from your staff and run a "more" DPS gem instead, making up for not having boosts from the flame golem and Pendulum/Mastermind, while still having the same amount of leech as the Witch.

And I don't know what you're doing in particular, but I've got 8.5k ES with fairly sub-optimal gear (look for Tiomata on my character page) and I can't believe you thought you could get by without CWDT/IC. :)

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Capozzi написал:

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gradinarcho написал:

tried minotaur he whooped my ass I gues 5.8k es isn't enough lol and I guess cwdt/ic set it really is needed

also I think being a serker sucks I'm gonna assume witch is much better

Berserker version does not suck. That huge leech is not to be underestimated, nor is the free stun immunity. And the 40% more damage is, well, also huge. The little boosts to movement speed and attack speed also really help with quality of life too.

You've also got a few more free skill points if you go Berserker (at least early on) since you don't need to path down to Unwavering Stance. And thanks to Brute Force, those early points at the Marauder start mostly work in your favor (and are damned nice to have before you make the switch to CI/WI at 39).

Biggest suck for the class was getting blue skill gems, and that was basically solved with the changes to Siosa in the Library in 2.6.

And did I mention that huge leech?

TL;DR: Witch version isn't much better. It's just a bit different, and at the late end-game, Witch might even be worse in some situations. And with the Berzerker, you have the option to drop the Leech gem from your staff and run a "more" DPS gem instead, making up for not having boosts from the flame golem and Pendulum/Mastermind, while still having the same amount of leech as the Witch.

And I don't know what you're doing in particular, but I've got 8.5k ES with fairly sub-optimal gear (look for Tiomata on my character page) and I can't believe you thought you could get by without CWDT/IC. :)

I'm using 2 uniq rings and black sun helm so that's like 200 int I'm not getting from the stuff you have I dunno if that makes up 2k es also what golem should I run since I cant run 2? ice I would assume?

Marauder should run Chaos golem.

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Capozzi написал:

Marauder should run Chaos golem.

so cwdt+ic+chaos golem? guess 2 red 1 blue would be easyer to get on gloves

Tri curse is not the core mechanic of this build right ? So i can just replace the doedre ring with the rare one ?

also someone said a rare jewel with say 12% spell damage and 16% spell damagae with a staff is better then turmoil?

Good job on the guides mate, very well put together. I have played the witch variant at least 10 times by now(ripping in hc is like my favourite thing to do lol) over the last few leagues(the one in Breach being the highest level ever) and I'm going to make one this league too. The tree has always been the same and I want to try something different. Have a few questions though as I've never reached T16s before, probably wont this time either but I'll definitely try ha.

So, and I know you have an answer in FAQ on this already but still, is US really that necessary? I'm considering valyrium+lab stun enchant, which would free up the points for extra jewels that would cover the loss of diamond skin cluster as well as add more damage and would allow me to pick up the witch es nodes. No US would mean I can use a stibnite too which is one of the best defensive flasks imo. Have you tried valyrium and/or the lab enchant and if so can you really feel the immunity loss that much at higher levels? I also plan to use the Gull(cause its just so insane) so the cold res from valyrium would be covered.

Have you tried the non AoF/CwC version? With the need to run CtF gem and AoF now, I'm considering the Inquisitor(or Beserker?) for this. The high mana cost would be covered by the the 4% mana regen(or maybe Beserker leech?). Dropping scorching ray-cwc and cold to fire for echo+ele focus/conc/controlled destruction (over the standard ray-cwc-ctf-conc/ele focus-leech-pen) Do you think there is any merit for a pure ice version? Honestly, I think the synergy with Ray-CwC and fire Icestrom is too big to lose but just in case you have tried it, what are your thoughts on this?

Considering I'm only playing HC, which would you say is the safest version? I'm leaning towards Witch cause she's reflect immune but still.

If you can answer any of these questions it would be much appreciated, cheers.

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Messiah_sin_x написал:

Which end game grinds are the easiest to accomplish, from what I've seen in his videos, Uber Izaro is quite easy, some of the shaper's guardians can be easily tanked but Idk about the other ones, I don't like doing Atziri's, seems like it requires much preparations taking you out of your comfort zone and you also have to move a lot.

Xoph and Tul breaches are preaty fast and esey.