(EDIT) "Gems" that never Shined (Shone)

Thread is simple, name a gem that never had its day in the sun. For example, there are some skills now that are not used often but at one point was the flavor of the month -- spark (spark totem) comes to mind. But what about those skills that never had their chance to shine, not even in a niche crowd?


Let me throw out my initial nominee:




I don't believe Cast on Melee Kill has ever had any real utility and the awkwardness of it is the cause. It has to be linked to the skill used to kill (one slot) and have something useful to cast also linked (one slot). And to top if off, it casts after you've killed something so it's only useful for killing the next thing. So at the cost of two slots and not being easily triggered, you get a skill that has never been part of any meta -- probably for good reason.

Anyone think this isn't the top choice? Why not? What else would dethrone it?


(EDIT: OP said skills, and I meant gems)
(EDIT2: "Shone" is the proper past tense for Shine since it doesn't reference an object....but I like how shined sounds so keeping it)

Cast on Death in HC.

Elemental hit is an obvious choice imo. If you want a support gem, I'd say chance to flee. Even if we assume that flee is somewhat useful as a defensive mechanic, that shit doesn't even work when it really counts (rare and unique mobs).

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Shagsbeard написал:

Cast on Death in HC.

Hah. Touche.

Maybe you want that last middle finger to the thing that killed you? I agree, that's probably never been used in HC....but in the game it certainly has. Cast on Death + Portal isn't that uncommon.

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Xavderion написал:

Elemental hit is an obvious choice imo. If you want a support gem, I'd say chance to flee. Even if we assume that flee is somewhat useful as a defensive mechanic, that shit doesn't even work when it really counts (rare and unique mobs).

I seem to recall Elemental Hit + Brightbeak being a viable and not too uncommon choice when I first started playing -- if you could afford the mana cost.


Chance to Flee is pure garbage. That might have less utility than Cast on Melee Kill. I know it was once used in conjunction with bleed builds to kill packs but don't think it was popular.

- Elemental hit
- Chance to Flee
- Cast on Death
- Freeze Mine
- Dominating Blow (by Sexcalibur)
- Fork
- Mana Leech
- Life Leech
- Reduced Mana
- Puncture
- Ice Spear
- Ice Trap
- Power Siphon (by Heli0nix)
- Double Strike
- Dual Strike
- Frenzy
- Viper Strike
- Incinerate (by QzumiaTheFeared)
- Devouring Totem

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116826/page/1

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Antigegner написал:

- Elemental hit
- Chance to Flee
- Cast on Death
- Freeze Mine
- Dominating Blow (by Sexcalibur)
- Fork
- Mana Leech
- Life Leech
- Reduced Mana
- Puncture
- Ice Spear
- Ice Trap
- Power Siphon (by Heli0nix)
- Double Strike
- Dual Strike
- Frenzy
- Viper Strike
- Incinerate (by QzumiaTheFeared)
- Devouring Totem

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116826/page/1

I think you missed the point of the thread. Not skills that suck now (there are plenty of those), but skills that always sucked. That thread is about things that suck now. Just to go down the list:

- Chance to Flee: Yeah garbage. Definitely always sucked.
- Cast on Death: Still used today for one sole purpose, portal.
- Freeze Mine: It used to be used a lot for boss fights in groups.
- Dominating Blow (by Sexcalibur): Maybe never meta, but it's certainly had a time when powerful.
- Fork: Spork Build. (Among others)
- Mana Leech: Prior to leech changes, it was viable and a necessity for some builds.
- Life Leech: See mana leech.
- Reduced Mana: New gem is garbage. No question. The prior version was a must in all aura builds.
- Puncture: Puncture Trap. One shot atziri w/ Chin Sol. Remember?
- Ice Spear: Was popular with Cast on Crit builds. Even solo cast when I started.
- Ice Trap: I have no thoughts on this. Maybe?
- Power Siphon (by Heli0nix): Used to be a popular choice for cast on crit builds.
- Double Strike: Was one of the most common used skills when I first started, behind Dual Strike.
- Dual Strike: There was a Bringer of Rain build that used this when I started. Most popular build at the time.
- Frenzy: Was exceptionally popular a few years ago. Still used to generate charges today.
- Viper Strike: Somewhat niche but earlier viper strike builds hit 5 times and kited. This was old VS.
- Incinerate (by QzumiaTheFeared): Pre-shotgun change one of the most popular builds w/ RF & Cybil's Paw
- Devouring Totem: Yeah, garbage. I don't think I've ever used it or seen it in a build.

Arc
Glacial hammer
Cold snap
Cleave
Reave
Lacerate
Lightning strike

Reave never shined? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Shagsbeard написал:

Reave never shined? Are you fucking kidding me?

Some folks are newer than others. Then again, the closed beta tag :)

Cleave certainly one of the most popular area attacks prior to the less damage change for dual wielding.