(EDIT) "Gems" that never Shined (Shone)

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Domah написал:
Wow.

The BS fact per post in this thread is quite high.

Arc is bad ? Do you heard of the new mathil's build ? And arc were always a very good fast cleaning maps skill for new leagues.

Life leech never shined ? Vaal pact + life leech before the nerf could make you instant regen every hit you deal...

Vitality useless ? Life based RF ? Anyone ?

Fork where used in vaal fireball setup and were so powerfull that it was nerfed.

Incinerate were top tier build.

Reduced mana is still good for leveling with some skill with tabula rasa.

Lightning strike was played.

Reave... just lol at this one.




You are using the term "fact" pretty loosely. I think folks are putting forward their thoughts. Hell, I nominated CoMK and it appears to be attached to one of the more popular builds in the past (wormblaster). I wouldn't know because that was during a hiatus. No doubt others have the same issue.


So far, I'm personally inclined to say Chance to Flee and/or Devouring Totem are the front runners. Though truth in advertising, devouring totem is so seldomly used and I've never used it...so who the hell knows? :)
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I once used devouring totem to clean up a poorjoys i was clearing in a particularly paranoid run :P
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Draegnarrr написал:
I once used devouring totem to clean up a poorjoys i was clearing in a particularly paranoid run :P


Confirmed. Devouring Totem used once ever. :)


I actually did try it once as well back when totems could be triggered w/ CWDT. I was comparing it to rejuvenation totem; rejuvenation totem won.
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Nubatron написал:
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Antigegner написал:
- Elemental hit
- Chance to Flee
- Cast on Death
- Freeze Mine
- Dominating Blow (by Sexcalibur)
- Fork
- Mana Leech
- Life Leech
- Reduced Mana
- Puncture
- Ice Spear
- Ice Trap
- Power Siphon (by Heli0nix)
- Double Strike
- Dual Strike
- Frenzy
- Viper Strike
- Incinerate (by QzumiaTheFeared)
- Devouring Totem

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116826/page/1


I think you missed the point of the thread. Not skills that suck now (there are plenty of those), but skills that always sucked. That thread is about things that suck now. Just to go down the list:

- Chance to Flee: Yeah garbage. Definitely always sucked.
- Cast on Death: Still used today for one sole purpose, portal.
- Freeze Mine: It used to be used a lot for boss fights in groups.
- Dominating Blow (by Sexcalibur): Maybe never meta, but it's certainly had a time when powerful.
- Fork: Spork Build. (Among others)
- Mana Leech: Prior to leech changes, it was viable and a necessity for some builds.
- Life Leech: See mana leech.
- Reduced Mana: New gem is garbage. No question. The prior version was a must in all aura builds.
- Puncture: Puncture Trap. One shot atziri w/ Chin Sol. Remember?
- Ice Spear: Was popular with Cast on Crit builds. Even solo cast when I started.
- Ice Trap: I have no thoughts on this. Maybe?
- Power Siphon (by Heli0nix): Used to be a popular choice for cast on crit builds.
- Double Strike: Was one of the most common used skills when I first started, behind Dual Strike.
- Dual Strike: There was a Bringer of Rain build that used this when I started. Most popular build at the time.
- Frenzy: Was exceptionally popular a few years ago. Still used to generate charges today.
- Viper Strike: Somewhat niche but earlier viper strike builds hit 5 times and kited. This was old VS.
- Incinerate (by QzumiaTheFeared): Pre-shotgun change one of the most popular builds w/ RF & Cybil's Paw
- Devouring Totem: Yeah, garbage. I don't think I've ever used it or seen it in a build.


sorry, I really made a mistake there and didn't read well, my apologies!

Happy to see that two of the skills I listed (chance to flee and devouring totem) still made it into this thread ;-)

I added your suggestion of : cast on melee kill to my list (in my thread) as I couldn't agree more...needs some love. I added you in the credits section (hope u r fine with that)


back to topic:
is frost bomb used a lot?I know it's relatively new but I've never seen anyone use it nor did i read anything in the forums.
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Frost bomb is used in any build that does 100% cold damage (or should be) its also extremely useful for hall of the grandmasters to shut down the regen characters.
Frost Bomb used in PVP and HoGM? Certainly not a highly used skill. That’s for sure.

All good on CoMK and thread.
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Последняя редакция: Nubatron#4333. Время: 16 апр. 2018 г., 08:59:37
How about Determination? Never really shined iirc, Grace + IR was/is the better choice.

And many Vaal Gems, if you want to count those too, would fit...
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Последняя редакция: Wazz72#5866. Время: 16 апр. 2018 г., 09:15:20
that gems was good with discharge
my english sux.
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Wazz72 написал:
How about Determination? Never really shined iirc, Grace + IR was/is the better choice.

And many Vaal Gems, if you want to count those too, would fit...


I've never done a traditional Aegis Aurora build but would guess they incorporate Determination as a must. That more multiplier would be a big boost.

Armor...ehh.


There was a comment earlier about Vaal Lightning Warp and that thing is pretty bad from what I recall. Many of the Vaal gems had a hayday pre-nerfs.

I've never seen someone use Vaal Righteous fire in a non-funny gimmick kind of way. With Vaal Immortal Call it's not a death sentence :)
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