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muramiri написал:
I mean, you can reach max block with those items without glancing blows.

I was looking into a build with no block stacking at all, only Glancing Blows, Mystic Bulwark and Bone Offering (Bone Offering lvl21 and Mystic Bulwark give enough spell block to reach the cap after Glancing). I played a Trickster with Glancing and enjoyed it a lot



I'm not a big fan of GB because you always take damage. Against big monsters and bosses, the blocked hit can be really heavy. If the boss can hit for 10k, you take 5k even if you block! If you have pure block, you take 0 damage.

But block is not so important for summoner because minion have 100% DPS uptime. You can move your necro out of danger and keep DPS. Don't need to facetank or have 0 dps. For example, if you see porcupines, just send spectres to attack and stay back. Another build needs to face tank the explosion.

Also you can scale spectre DPS so high now. You can clear or offscreen clear the map and don't worry about taking damage. So, I think it's better to get a good amount of block, but don't take spectre things like GB, etc. Then try to scale damage (or freeze/shatter!).

Maybe at start of mapping when DPS is low, block is more useful.

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muramiri написал:
I mean, you can reach max block with those items without glancing blows.

I was looking into a build with no block stacking at all, only Glancing Blows, Mystic Bulwark and Bone Offering (Bone Offering lvl21 and Mystic Bulwark give enough spell block to reach the cap after Glancing). I played a Trickster with Glancing and enjoyed it a lot



I'm not a big fan of GB because you always take damage. Against big monsters and bosses, the blocked hit can be really heavy. If the boss can hit for 10k, you take 5k even if you block! If you have pure block, you take 0 damage.

But block is not so important for summoner because minion have 100% DPS uptime. You can move your necro out of danger and keep DPS. Don't need to facetank or have 0 dps. For example, if you see porcupines, just send spectres to attack and stay back. Another build needs to face tank the explosion.

Also you can scale spectre DPS so high now. You can clear or offscreen clear the map and don't worry about taking damage. So, I think it's better to get a good amount of block, but don't take spectre things like GB, etc. Then try to scale damage (or freeze/shatter!).

Maybe at start of mapping when DPS is low, block is more useful.



For me, Glancing Blow = consistency: you take half the damage, indeed, and a heavy hit will knock you down to lower life values, but here is what i noticed during Sirius and Uber Elder fights:
I can dodge most things thrown at me, but if i get hit (shaper ball, die beam, Elder ice barrage) and don't block, i either survive with very little HP or die. a good amount of block/dodge helped with that, but then i encountered another problem. With lower block chance there is still the probability to not block and die, while with Glancing i have the highest block value all the time and even if i take half the damage, my chances to survive big hits were higher. It got a lot more consistent, easier to manage the incoming hits.

I guess, in the end it's a matter of playstile and comfort, and there is no *best option*
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muramiri написал:


I guess, in the end it's a matter of playstile and comfort, and there is no *best option*


The passive tree paths near GB. I can mention it as an option to take, but basic build won't have it.

Edit:

I'm doing similar with EB/MoM. I got feedback about out of mana (es) problems and also had it myself. When taking hits, there is no more ES to cast anything. So can't use flame dash or dash to get away. Many times I felt like I was geting hit and my flame dash won't work!

So I tested a new passive tree focus on life nodes on left side and no more mom. It felt much safer than the EB/MoM tree even though there is less total HP.

3.11 passive tree is actually more like 3.9 passive tree :D
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kayella написал:


I'm doing similar with EB/MoM. I got feedback about out of mana (es) problems and also had it myself. When taking hits, there is no more ES to cast anything. So can't use flame dash or dash to get away. Many times I felt like I was geting hit and my flame dash won't work!

3.11 passive tree is actually more like 3.9 passive tree :D


I've done Hybrid (ES+Life) Necros in the past, but never used Eldritch Battery.
I prefer faster start of ES + Wicked Ward combo instead of EB+MoM because you have no *fuel problems* when getting hit.

And while Hybrid has the higheet eHP potential, the problem is sustain. if you can't find a safe spot to start the ES recharge, or have no Vaal Discipline, you run around with only half the eHP.

MoM version, for me, is with Aul's amulet and based on mana, not es, with a mana pool of about 60% of the life pool, a Hybrid and a Mana Flask. This is ofc very costly, but with The Agnostic there it is the ultimate tankiness option. Top left side of the tree has a lot of mana nodes, so scaling it would not be a problem.
Oooopsss
This will hurt I guess?
"Critical Strike Multiplier values have been lowered from almost every passive, as well as from some items. Critical-based characters far-exceeded non-critical characters later in the game; this will bring the two a little closer together."
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DaveNotDave написал:
Oooopsss
This will hurt I guess?
"Critical Strike Multiplier values have been lowered from almost every passive, as well as from some items. Critical-based characters far-exceeded non-critical characters later in the game; this will bring the two a little closer together."


Minions have no crit strike or crit multi on the passive tree. So we're completely fine!
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muramiri написал:
MoM version, for me, is with Aul's amulet and based on mana, not es, with a mana pool of about 60% of the life pool, a Hybrid and a Mana Flask. This is ofc very costly, but with The Agnostic there it is the ultimate tankiness option. Top left side of the tree has a lot of mana nodes, so scaling it would not be a problem.


It would be interesting to try. I don't build for proper MoM because auras are powerful for minions and usually push DPS killeverythingfirst for endgame.
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kayella написал:
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DaveNotDave написал:
Oooopsss
This will hurt I guess?
"Critical Strike Multiplier values have been lowered from almost every passive, as well as from some items. Critical-based characters far-exceeded non-critical characters later in the game; this will bring the two a little closer together."


Minions have no crit strike or crit multi on the passive tree. So we're completely fine!


We don't know yet. And Spectres/Minions can still get nerfed in the patchnotes without necessarily needing to be mentioned in the dev manifesto.

I feel Vicious Bite will get slapped down to 30-40% Crit multiplier. Precise Commander could also get lowered to 10% crit multi.

Just wanna say "Thank You" ... fantastic Job!
I don't really play in standard, but have accumulate lots of currency over time. So I just bought this body armour. It's the best body armour for life/hybrid spectre summoner.



It's a legacy craft. You cannot make this kind of armour now. Please don't try in league!

Can buy it from here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2516760
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