ZiggyD Herald of Purity/Smite/Dom Blow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hCrOKZbrEY

Haven't seen this posted yet surprisingly.

Wondering if there is a way to combine these new minion nodes with the Herald of Agony and Pathfinder ascendency to make a really powerful 6link crawler build.

I think it could be, but only with The Coming Calamity unique to have herald of agony reserve only 45% of mana :P

I was hyped to play scion summoner but sadly changes to templar ascendancy did not go to scion :(

Be sure to check out the new skill at the end, Consecrated Path! Don't blink, you'll miss it!

nvm, stupid question

Hmmmmm..........

What Ziggy doesn't mention is that maintaining Herald of Purity's minions during long, adless boss fights will be nigh impossible without Worms to Blast, so those will fall off if your boss fight goes more'n ten, fifteen seconds without a kill. That's not a huge problem for most general content, but it's going to make Herald of Purity a very suboptimal choice for builds aiming at Elder or Shaper or such. At least as a central thing; the skill itself is still free flat phys for stuff like Facebreakers or Doomfletch, as he said.

Dominating Blow doesn't have that issue, but it's also Dominating Blow. First of all, it doesn't have that "Minions don't replace themselves stupidly" protection Herald of Purity does, so if Domblow is the only thing you use while clearing, your minions will spend more time dying than punching. It does mean you get to maintain your army against bosses though, provided your APS is high enough. Don't really like the thought of relying on Dominating Blow.

Smite looks pretty generally useful, nice that it works cleanly with Ancestral Call. It's no Molten Strike 2.0, but it's also the sort of thing you can use as a primarily-summoner to augment minions without necessarily focusing on the attack damage of it. I don't think that's the way to go with Smite, but it's nice that you can use it for utility as well as damage.

What I want to know is how viable it is/would be to pull something with an entirely different set of skills. My brain goes to Blade Flurry CWC SRS, with the Scourge Light minion mods - or maybe even just using the Scourge. Probably more memelulzy than awesome, but similar sorts of set-ups can decouple this new Legion Captain character from just the random holy minions that are finky to try and maintain. Golems would be a very solid option as well. You can't get as many of them as an Elementalist or Ascendant can, but you don't need that many of them, and resummoning golems that die doesn't take nearly as much time away from your own actions as something like resummoning zombies does, or require you to get anal-retentive with how you use your skills like NuDomblow does. Admittedly, golems don't really do dick-all with the added physical damage from Herald of Purity, but hey. Take what you can get.

Lots of interesting ideas to try. Will be fun to see which ones rise to the top and which ones fall flat on their face.

EDIT: Whups. Also this thing just got a whole lot better, now that you can make a legit actually-viable Melee + Minions Legion Captain Build. In fact, my brain says this might be one of the Ways To Go here...

huh. herald of purity still gives you a chance to get one of those minions on hitting a unique mob. so you should easily be able to keep them up in boss fights, so long as you're hitting it. he says 20% chance actually. better than dom blows 10% chance

these reworks and that guardian ascendancy look fucking broken as shit. leave it to GGG to force a meta shift by making reworked/new stuff completely busted, that they'll just nerf the next league (traps/ele hit)

I dont get why pigeonhole a guardian into this playstyle when they couldve easily made scion and perhaps other ascendancies interesting with this style

its not like guardian wasnt powerful before.

I too wanted to try dom blow scion, but looking at the new guardian nodes, they provide way too much of EVERYTHING to choose another class unless you're looking for some specific stuff like slayer leech or something.

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grepman написал:

I dont get why pigeonhole a guardian into this playstyle when they couldve easily made scion and perhaps other ascendancies interesting with this style

its not like guardian wasnt powerful before.

I too wanted to try dom blow scion, but looking at the new guardian nodes, they provide way too much of EVERYTHING to choose another class unless you're looking for some specific stuff like slayer leech or something.

They didn't pigeonhole Guardian into shit. The one singular build Guardian had before, i.e. overpriced Righteous Fire, is utterly and entirely unaffected by these changes. Entirely unaffected. This is a straight-up trip to Bufftown for Guardian, and furthermore it's thematically appropriate for the party support, ally-focused Templar Ascendancy to be the one that's also good at making its own friends. This style dovetails right in with what the Guardian was originally designed for and lets it finally be its own class without having to be an overpriced Righteous Fire build.

That said? The only thing Guardian deliberately gives here is the Herald of Purity junk, which is hardly necessary. Unwavering Crusade is certainly helpful, especially for sustain, but there's shit to do on Ascendant if you really want. Ascendant Necromancer still gives you skill duration, a chunk of minion damage that turns into you damage, and self-offerings alongside whatever other Ascendancy you want. Hell, straight-up Necromancer is promising too!

Guardian is the build they're pushing, but it's hardly the only use of any of these skills.

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1453R написал:

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grepman написал:

I dont get why pigeonhole a guardian into this playstyle when they couldve easily made scion and perhaps other ascendancies interesting with this style

its not like guardian wasnt powerful before.

I too wanted to try dom blow scion, but looking at the new guardian nodes, they provide way too much of EVERYTHING to choose another class unless you're looking for some specific stuff like slayer leech or something.

They didn't pigeonhole Guardian into shit. The one singular build Guardian had before, i.e. overpriced Righteous Fire, is utterly and entirely unaffected by these changes. Entirely unaffected. This is a straight-up trip to Bufftown for Guardian, and furthermore it's thematically appropriate for the party support, ally-focused Templar Ascendancy to be the one that's also good at making its own friends. This style dovetails right in with what the Guardian was originally designed for and lets it finally be its own class without having to be an overpriced Righteous Fire build.

That said? The only thing Guardian deliberately gives here is the Herald of Purity junk, which is hardly necessary. Unwavering Crusade is certainly helpful, especially for sustain, but there's shit to do on Ascendant if you really want. Ascendant Necromancer still gives you skill duration, a chunk of minion damage that turns into you damage, and self-offerings alongside whatever other Ascendancy you want. Hell, straight-up Necromancer is promising too!

Guardian is the build they're pushing, but it's hardly the only use of any of these skills.

the 4 node minion path is way too good compared to any other class if youre going the 'combo summoner' route, thats what I meant. the style of playing dom blow is pretty much pigeonholed into playing a guardian.

12% incr es
28% incr armour
20 % increased minion damage (which applies to you obviously because everyone going for this style takes those two new nodes on the tree)
20% incr damage if you have 1 or more auras
10% more damage if you have 1 ally (up all the time basically)
40% increased buff to HoP
sentinel of purity 50% incr aoe
10% incr aoe for each sentinel of purity
100% incr minion accuracy
crusade slam ability
minions intimidate
3% regen to minion AND you if you hit anything recently

um...the fuck ? even full necro with offerings doesnt have a bunch of shit thrown together that matches this

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Guardian is the build they're pushing

I'm glad you came to your senses and agreed